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	<title>Comments on: More Catholic than the Pope? Manila Suburb Cracks Down on Condoms</title>
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		<title>By: willyj77</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[STDs as a justification for condoms is a tad exaggerated. We have one of the lowest HIV cases on earth. Is it just 7,000 something? (the exact figure can be easily searched though). Compare with Thailand who has an all-out and out condom campaign at huge expense. They have more than a million HIV cases right? There is no overpopulation here in terms of density. We have something like 320 people per sq km. Singapore has more than 11,000. There is just too much overcrowding in our cities.

As for coercion, it comes in many ways. It is also a form of coercion to force public money to dole out free contraceptives, when real health programs suffer from funding, as well as major economic programs being neglected. (like rice self-sufficiency program which lacks funds). It is also coercion to force secular mandatory sex education. It is also coercion to force health practitioners to go along with the promotion.

I have no problem with the awareness part, on that we can agree. Public awareness programs should be objective though. The problem is they paint chemical contraceptives as totally &quot;safe and effective&quot; when established medical research says they are also harmful to a woman&#039;s body.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STDs as a justification for condoms is a tad exaggerated. We have one of the lowest HIV cases on earth. Is it just 7,000 something? (the exact figure can be easily searched though). Compare with Thailand who has an all-out and out condom campaign at huge expense. They have more than a million HIV cases right? There is no overpopulation here in terms of density. We have something like 320 people per sq km. Singapore has more than 11,000. There is just too much overcrowding in our cities.</p>
<p>As for coercion, it comes in many ways. It is also a form of coercion to force public money to dole out free contraceptives, when real health programs suffer from funding, as well as major economic programs being neglected. (like rice self-sufficiency program which lacks funds). It is also coercion to force secular mandatory sex education. It is also coercion to force health practitioners to go along with the promotion.</p>
<p>I have no problem with the awareness part, on that we can agree. Public awareness programs should be objective though. The problem is they paint chemical contraceptives as totally &#8220;safe and effective&#8221; when established medical research says they are also harmful to a woman&#8217;s body.</p>
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		<title>By: markpere2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buddy, we&#039;re having a very interesting conversation here. Both our arguments are compelling, but I just don&#039;t like that we seem to be restricting the debate in the Catholic context. And yes, I can do nothing about the Church&#039;s &quot;theological tradition.&quot; I am also not arguing whether a Pope&#039;s statement is a Magesterial teaching or not. That&#039;s off-point. In the Philippines, certain sectors are promoting the use of condoms to curb the prevalence of STDs and overpopulation. The state is not coercing couples to use condoms. Their only responsibility is to make the public aware of this option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy, we&#8217;re having a very interesting conversation here. Both our arguments are compelling, but I just don&#8217;t like that we seem to be restricting the debate in the Catholic context. And yes, I can do nothing about the Church&#8217;s &#8220;theological tradition.&#8221; I am also not arguing whether a Pope&#8217;s statement is a Magesterial teaching or not. That&#8217;s off-point. In the Philippines, certain sectors are promoting the use of condoms to curb the prevalence of STDs and overpopulation. The state is not coercing couples to use condoms. Their only responsibility is to make the public aware of this option.</p>
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		<title>By: willyj77</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[willyj77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 10:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, atomic bombs were also not yet existent in the biblical era.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, atomic bombs were also not yet existent in the biblical era.</p>
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		<title>By: willyj77</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 10:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please be patient. I&#039;m just trying to explain. The Church does not teach faith and morals through press cons. It does so through the normal channels: encyclicals, doctrinal lectures and instructions..and courses it thru the church hierarchy all the way down to the lay faithful. Many times this is openly done and visible even to non-believers who are wont to criticize and give their own private, unofficial interpretations (opinions actually). And by the way, the Pope&#039;s condom comments materialized thru an informal interview, which in no way can be classified as Magesterial teaching.

Also, the Church does not classify condoms as abortifacients either. And you are totally free to disagree with the Church in its teachings about contraceptives in general. The Church of course, as far as I understand is likewise free to preserve its theological tradition, at least in democratic and enlightened circles.

On rape: The rape IS unwanted. A human being that results from such a rape (a very, very rare probability by the way) is a distinct human being totally innocent of any crime whatsoever. It is not &quot;unwanted&quot; in the sense you want to abort (in other words, kill) that innocent, defenseless human being.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be patient. I&#8217;m just trying to explain. The Church does not teach faith and morals through press cons. It does so through the normal channels: encyclicals, doctrinal lectures and instructions..and courses it thru the church hierarchy all the way down to the lay faithful. Many times this is openly done and visible even to non-believers who are wont to criticize and give their own private, unofficial interpretations (opinions actually). And by the way, the Pope&#8217;s condom comments materialized thru an informal interview, which in no way can be classified as Magesterial teaching.</p>
<p>Also, the Church does not classify condoms as abortifacients either. And you are totally free to disagree with the Church in its teachings about contraceptives in general. The Church of course, as far as I understand is likewise free to preserve its theological tradition, at least in democratic and enlightened circles.</p>
<p>On rape: The rape IS unwanted. A human being that results from such a rape (a very, very rare probability by the way) is a distinct human being totally innocent of any crime whatsoever. It is not &#8220;unwanted&#8221; in the sense you want to abort (in other words, kill) that innocent, defenseless human being.</p>
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		<title>By: markpere2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 09:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s kinda pointless to go on with this. Nothing I say will make you see my point, anyway. Press cons may be a foreign thing to the Pope himself, but to assume that &quot;The Church does not do press cons&quot; is wrong. How many have times has the body of Philippine prelates (the CBCP) done it?


Anyway, I wonder what exactly is the church&#039;s beef against condoms? God himself couldn&#039;t have forbidden its usage, simply because condoms are not yet existent during His time. It is also not an abortifacent, as other conservatives claim. Pushing for planned parenthood is laudable, I must say.


Re your last point: totally untrue. Example: what can you say about those who got impregnated by rapists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s kinda pointless to go on with this. Nothing I say will make you see my point, anyway. Press cons may be a foreign thing to the Pope himself, but to assume that &#8220;The Church does not do press cons&#8221; is wrong. How many have times has the body of Philippine prelates (the CBCP) done it?</p>
<p>Anyway, I wonder what exactly is the church&#8217;s beef against condoms? God himself couldn&#8217;t have forbidden its usage, simply because condoms are not yet existent during His time. It is also not an abortifacent, as other conservatives claim. Pushing for planned parenthood is laudable, I must say.</p>
<p>Re your last point: totally untrue. Example: what can you say about those who got impregnated by rapists?</p>
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		<title>By: willyj77</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 08:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing for the Pope to clarify. The press con bit is funny. The Church does not do press cons.

The Catholic teaching against contraceptives is a universal Magesterial teaching throughout Church tradition since day 1, even the Pope cannot change that teaching.

The Catholic Church is against infidelity (which causes much of STDs). The Church also teaches responsibility in parenting (including discerning the number and spacing of children). In responsible parenthood (by the way, that term originated from the Church), there is no such thing as an &quot;unwanted pregnancy&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing for the Pope to clarify. The press con bit is funny. The Church does not do press cons.</p>
<p>The Catholic teaching against contraceptives is a universal Magesterial teaching throughout Church tradition since day 1, even the Pope cannot change that teaching.</p>
<p>The Catholic Church is against infidelity (which causes much of STDs). The Church also teaches responsibility in parenting (including discerning the number and spacing of children). In responsible parenthood (by the way, that term originated from the Church), there is no such thing as an &#8220;unwanted pregnancy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: markpere2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 08:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I get the point you raised regarding my earlier point. However, we must understand that each statement is subject to interpretation. The pope himself never sought to clarify (like by calling a press con) what he really meant by what he said. 

In any way, I cannot fathom why some quarters are so against condoms. What is so wrong with wanting to have protected yourself from STDs and unwanted pregnancies?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I get the point you raised regarding my earlier point. However, we must understand that each statement is subject to interpretation. The pope himself never sought to clarify (like by calling a press con) what he really meant by what he said. </p>
<p>In any way, I cannot fathom why some quarters are so against condoms. What is so wrong with wanting to have protected yourself from STDs and unwanted pregnancies?</p>
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		<title>By: willyj77</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 07:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the Pope&#039;s remarks has already been clarified ad nauseam. The Pope NEVER justified the use of condoms, much as the mainstream, clueless secular media would like to portray. The Pope said something like its use can be a FIRST STEP in the realization.  &quot;a first act of responsibility,&quot; &quot;a first step on the road toward a more human sexuality,&quot; Sigh. 
http://www.zenit.org/article-31024?l=english]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the Pope&#8217;s remarks has already been clarified ad nauseam. The Pope NEVER justified the use of condoms, much as the mainstream, clueless secular media would like to portray. The Pope said something like its use can be a FIRST STEP in the realization.  &#8220;a first act of responsibility,&#8221; &#8220;a first step on the road toward a more human sexuality,&#8221; Sigh.<br />
<a href="http://www.zenit.org/article-31024?l=english" rel="nofollow">http://www.zenit.org/article-31024?l=english</a></p>
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		<title>By: markpere2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I could not understand what the basis of the author is in claiming such (Filipino Catholics are more &quot;Pope&quot; than the Pope), except that she&#039;s just trying to muddle things up.&quot;


I think you are actually the one who are muddling things up. First, the author do not refer to Filipino Catholics as &quot;more Catholic than the Pope.&quot; Her statement refers to the members of Ayala Alabang local council who made that ordinance requiring a doctor&#039;s prescription before one can buy condoms. She is not talking about diversity in Church dostrines, like what you claim. Obviously, you failed to understand what this blog is all about. 

And for your reference, Pope Benedict XVI as early as last year had already described the use of condoms on certain cases as acceptable. Read this:

&quot;Pope Benedict says that condoms can be used to stop the spread of HIV&quot;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/21/pope-benedict-condoms-hiv-infection]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I could not understand what the basis of the author is in claiming such (Filipino Catholics are more &#8220;Pope&#8221; than the Pope), except that she&#8217;s just trying to muddle things up.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you are actually the one who are muddling things up. First, the author do not refer to Filipino Catholics as &#8220;more Catholic than the Pope.&#8221; Her statement refers to the members of Ayala Alabang local council who made that ordinance requiring a doctor&#8217;s prescription before one can buy condoms. She is not talking about diversity in Church dostrines, like what you claim. Obviously, you failed to understand what this blog is all about. </p>
<p>And for your reference, Pope Benedict XVI as early as last year had already described the use of condoms on certain cases as acceptable. Read this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Pope Benedict says that condoms can be used to stop the spread of HIV&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/21/pope-benedict-condoms-hiv-infection" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/21/pope-benedict-condoms-hiv-infection</a></p>
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		<title>By: willyj77</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read the Ayala Alabang ordinance. I have not seen anything in there that requires prescriptions for condoms. The regulated acts are specified in Section 7 and I quote:
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&quot;SECTION 7. REGULATED ACTS

The pertinent provisions of Republic Act No. 5921 entitled AN ACT REGULATING THE PRACTICE OF PHARMACY AND SETTING STANDARDS OF PHARMACEUTICAL EDUCATION IN THE PHILIPPINES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES enacted into law June 21, 1969 are hereby incorporated into the Ordinance as an integral part thereof and are reproduced as follows:

“Section 37. Provisions relative to dispensing of anti-conceptional substances and devices. No drug or chemical product or device capable of provoking abortion or preventing conception as classified by the Food and Drug Administration shall be delivered or sold to any person without a proper prescription by a duly licensed physician.&quot;
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TWO THINGS:
ONE - there is an existing and in-effect law here - RA 5921 - that the Barangay Council seeks to enforce. Enforcing existing laws is well within its authority.
TWO - It never said it would ban condoms on its own authority under this section. It seeks to reinforce the ban on drugs or devices that are ALREADY banned by FDA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the Ayala Alabang ordinance. I have not seen anything in there that requires prescriptions for condoms. The regulated acts are specified in Section 7 and I quote:<br />
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&#8220;SECTION 7. REGULATED ACTS</p>
<p>The pertinent provisions of Republic Act No. 5921 entitled AN ACT REGULATING THE PRACTICE OF PHARMACY AND SETTING STANDARDS OF PHARMACEUTICAL EDUCATION IN THE PHILIPPINES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES enacted into law June 21, 1969 are hereby incorporated into the Ordinance as an integral part thereof and are reproduced as follows:</p>
<p>“Section 37. Provisions relative to dispensing of anti-conceptional substances and devices. No drug or chemical product or device capable of provoking abortion or preventing conception as classified by the Food and Drug Administration shall be delivered or sold to any person without a proper prescription by a duly licensed physician.&#8221;<br />
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TWO THINGS:<br />
ONE &#8211; there is an existing and in-effect law here &#8211; RA 5921 &#8211; that the Barangay Council seeks to enforce. Enforcing existing laws is well within its authority.<br />
TWO &#8211; It never said it would ban condoms on its own authority under this section. It seeks to reinforce the ban on drugs or devices that are ALREADY banned by FDA.</p>
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		<title>By: abrahamvllera</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To say that the Filipino Catholics are more &quot;Pope&quot; than the Pope betrays a serious lack of knowledge about how the Church works.  

The Catholic Church is one;  what one sees, therefore, in the Holy Masses in Tegucigulpa- aside from the language, of course-- is the same Holy Mass one sees in Manila.

The same is true with Church doctrines-- the same all throughout.

I could not understand what the basis of the author is in claiming such, except that she&#039;s just trying to muddle things up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say that the Filipino Catholics are more &#8220;Pope&#8221; than the Pope betrays a serious lack of knowledge about how the Church works.  </p>
<p>The Catholic Church is one;  what one sees, therefore, in the Holy Masses in Tegucigulpa- aside from the language, of course&#8211; is the same Holy Mass one sees in Manila.</p>
<p>The same is true with Church doctrines&#8211; the same all throughout.</p>
<p>I could not understand what the basis of the author is in claiming such, except that she&#8217;s just trying to muddle things up.</p>
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		<title>By: timlaws</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the point -- condoms are not used correctly and consistently in actual practice.  Especially by adolescents, and by the unmarried.  The condom failure rate for cohabiting couples is 50% per annum, according to the Alan Guttmacher institute, the research arm of Planned Parenthood. That&#039;s the rate for pregnancy, not for disease, for which they are even less effective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the point &#8212; condoms are not used correctly and consistently in actual practice.  Especially by adolescents, and by the unmarried.  The condom failure rate for cohabiting couples is 50% per annum, according to the Alan Guttmacher institute, the research arm of Planned Parenthood. That&#8217;s the rate for pregnancy, not for disease, for which they are even less effective.</p>
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		<title>By: cinova</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@timlaws
All of your arguments and cited research/experts could be refuted by more recent research from other sources (not studies conducted 14-30years ago). I would draw readers attention to scientific evidence that shows that both male and female condoms, used correctly and consistently, can reduce the risk of sexual transmission of HIV by 80 to 90%. This is cited by the International AIDS Society, arguably a reputable source of information? Also, I believe that at the start of 2010, the Health Secretary of the Philippines was attempting to distribute condoms to high risk groups, as a tool to raise HIV/AIDS awareness, but she was met with resistance from the Catholic Church. Let&#039;s hope (and pray) that the numbers of infected people do not increase greatly over the next few years as a result of this archaic law that essentially deprives people of personal choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@timlaws<br />
All of your arguments and cited research/experts could be refuted by more recent research from other sources (not studies conducted 14-30years ago). I would draw readers attention to scientific evidence that shows that both male and female condoms, used correctly and consistently, can reduce the risk of sexual transmission of HIV by 80 to 90%. This is cited by the International AIDS Society, arguably a reputable source of information? Also, I believe that at the start of 2010, the Health Secretary of the Philippines was attempting to distribute condoms to high risk groups, as a tool to raise HIV/AIDS awareness, but she was met with resistance from the Catholic Church. Let&#8217;s hope (and pray) that the numbers of infected people do not increase greatly over the next few years as a result of this archaic law that essentially deprives people of personal choice.</p>
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		<title>By: timlaws</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[timlaws]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This posting and several of the comments are based on a misperception.  The Alabang ordinance is not a Catholic document.  A Catholic ordinance would not require a prescription for contraceptives, it would ban them.  The ordinance does not do this, except for contraceptives that are also abortifacient. The ordinance is actually based on the Philippine Constitution and Republic Act 5921, an existing Philippine law passed in 1969.  

The ordinance was enacted to protect the lives of Filipinos from the moment they come into existence, which is required by the Philippine Constitution but is not currently being done, and in an effort to prevent a contraceptive society from developing.  

Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences awardee George Akerlof established in his 1996 study, &quot;An Analysis of Out-Of-Wedlock Childbearing in the United States,&quot; that a contraceptive society takes away the freedom of single women to say no to sexual propositions, whether they want to or not, if they hope to have any relationship with men.  Other researchers have confirmed this. Many residents of Ayala Alabang, particularly those with unmarried daughters, find this to be an undesirable state of affairs.  In his 1998 study, &quot;Men Without Children,&quot; Professor Akerlof  established that a contraceptive society greatly reduces marriages, and consequently increases crime because the young men who commit most crimes find stability in marriage that they do not have outside it.  He also established that a contraceptive society leads to the feminization of poverty because of resulting widespread single-motherhood -- numerous births out of wedlock being the great paradoxical hallmark of a contraceptive society.  
Stanford University economics professor Robert T. Michael established in his 1977 study, &quot;Why Has the Divorce Rate Doubled Within the Decade?&quot; that a contraceptive society greatly increases the divorce rate.  Many residents of Ayala Alabang also find this to be an undesirable development.  Some of them are aware that in addition to negative effects on the spouses, divorce has very well-established -- by social science -- and profoundly negative consequences for children.

In a contraceptive society, &quot;As people turn to contraception, there will be a rise, not a fall, in the abortion rate,&quot; according to Dr. Malcolm Potts, the pro-abortion doctor from the U.S. who recently visited the Philippines to support the Reproductive Health Bill.  However, abortion is not only illegal in the Philippines, it is unconstitutional, so this too is an unwelcome development for most Filipinos, not just residents of Ayala Alabang.  

In a contraceptive society, many people never marry, many of those who do marry eventually divorce, many of those who don’t marry live-in instead, and most of the live-ins eventually split up. Consequently many children grow up without both parents in their home, and suffer the consequences of poverty, poor health, physical and sexual abuse, and propensity to crime -- also very well-attested in the social science literature.  Since most Filipinos still value family as one of the most important -- or even the most important -- thing(s) in life, this also is not a desired trend.  

The greatest single result of the contraceptive society is that there are one hundred million (100,000,000) women currently missing from the world&#039;s population, as the Economist magazine reported on March 4, 2010 -- a result of the abortion mentality produced by contraception.  These women should be among us, living, loving, laughing, crying, hoping -- like the rest of us. But they&#039;re not here.  

One other thing about contraceptive societies, they don&#039;t produce enough children, men or women, to sustain their economies over the long term.  In the aging and eventually declining populations they produce, consumption can not keep up with production, resulting in permanent recession.  Some examples come to mind.  There are going to be many more.

Residents of Ayala Alabang have a lot of good reasons to regulate contraceptives.

Incidentally, the economic literature on the relationship of population growth rate vs. economic growth rate, empirically establishes that there is no direct link.  To the extent that there is a link, its effects are exceeded by other factors, such as corruption.

Also, Edward C. Green, senior research scientist, Harvard School of Public Health, whose specialty is epidemiology, has found in his studies that “there is no evidence that more condoms leads to less AIDS.”
And, Dr. Norman Hearst, of the University of California at San Francisco, has stated that statistics show a pattern of increased condom sales correlating with rising HIV prevalence -- the former preceding the latter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This posting and several of the comments are based on a misperception.  The Alabang ordinance is not a Catholic document.  A Catholic ordinance would not require a prescription for contraceptives, it would ban them.  The ordinance does not do this, except for contraceptives that are also abortifacient. The ordinance is actually based on the Philippine Constitution and Republic Act 5921, an existing Philippine law passed in 1969.  </p>
<p>The ordinance was enacted to protect the lives of Filipinos from the moment they come into existence, which is required by the Philippine Constitution but is not currently being done, and in an effort to prevent a contraceptive society from developing.  </p>
<p>Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences awardee George Akerlof established in his 1996 study, &#8220;An Analysis of Out-Of-Wedlock Childbearing in the United States,&#8221; that a contraceptive society takes away the freedom of single women to say no to sexual propositions, whether they want to or not, if they hope to have any relationship with men.  Other researchers have confirmed this. Many residents of Ayala Alabang, particularly those with unmarried daughters, find this to be an undesirable state of affairs.  In his 1998 study, &#8220;Men Without Children,&#8221; Professor Akerlof  established that a contraceptive society greatly reduces marriages, and consequently increases crime because the young men who commit most crimes find stability in marriage that they do not have outside it.  He also established that a contraceptive society leads to the feminization of poverty because of resulting widespread single-motherhood &#8212; numerous births out of wedlock being the great paradoxical hallmark of a contraceptive society.<br />
Stanford University economics professor Robert T. Michael established in his 1977 study, &#8220;Why Has the Divorce Rate Doubled Within the Decade?&#8221; that a contraceptive society greatly increases the divorce rate.  Many residents of Ayala Alabang also find this to be an undesirable development.  Some of them are aware that in addition to negative effects on the spouses, divorce has very well-established &#8212; by social science &#8212; and profoundly negative consequences for children.</p>
<p>In a contraceptive society, &#8220;As people turn to contraception, there will be a rise, not a fall, in the abortion rate,&#8221; according to Dr. Malcolm Potts, the pro-abortion doctor from the U.S. who recently visited the Philippines to support the Reproductive Health Bill.  However, abortion is not only illegal in the Philippines, it is unconstitutional, so this too is an unwelcome development for most Filipinos, not just residents of Ayala Alabang.  </p>
<p>In a contraceptive society, many people never marry, many of those who do marry eventually divorce, many of those who don’t marry live-in instead, and most of the live-ins eventually split up. Consequently many children grow up without both parents in their home, and suffer the consequences of poverty, poor health, physical and sexual abuse, and propensity to crime &#8212; also very well-attested in the social science literature.  Since most Filipinos still value family as one of the most important &#8212; or even the most important &#8212; thing(s) in life, this also is not a desired trend.  </p>
<p>The greatest single result of the contraceptive society is that there are one hundred million (100,000,000) women currently missing from the world&#8217;s population, as the Economist magazine reported on March 4, 2010 &#8212; a result of the abortion mentality produced by contraception.  These women should be among us, living, loving, laughing, crying, hoping &#8212; like the rest of us. But they&#8217;re not here.  </p>
<p>One other thing about contraceptive societies, they don&#8217;t produce enough children, men or women, to sustain their economies over the long term.  In the aging and eventually declining populations they produce, consumption can not keep up with production, resulting in permanent recession.  Some examples come to mind.  There are going to be many more.</p>
<p>Residents of Ayala Alabang have a lot of good reasons to regulate contraceptives.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the economic literature on the relationship of population growth rate vs. economic growth rate, empirically establishes that there is no direct link.  To the extent that there is a link, its effects are exceeded by other factors, such as corruption.</p>
<p>Also, Edward C. Green, senior research scientist, Harvard School of Public Health, whose specialty is epidemiology, has found in his studies that “there is no evidence that more condoms leads to less AIDS.”<br />
And, Dr. Norman Hearst, of the University of California at San Francisco, has stated that statistics show a pattern of increased condom sales correlating with rising HIV prevalence &#8212; the former preceding the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: jcc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 00:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Irresponsible and wanton sexual communion between couples resulting to pregnancies is conveniently called “unintended pregnancies”. The cause is being downplayed and the result is being presented as a malaise that should be addressed.

Couples can abstain from sex, do self-help, use condom, perform it when the woman is safe, or ask her partner to do “coitus interruptus”. The lessons of the birds and the bees do not require that parents should have PhD’s. When they could not do these things, society, the church specifically, is being blamed for the ballooning population and the resulting infants and maternal deaths as if the church or the collective society have something to do with the manner most people engage in promiscuous behaviour and irresponsible conduct.

In RP, the law against abortion suddenly becomes the culprit and society’s moral judgment against pregnant women without  partners becomes a crime. We have our moral compass totally upside down, the very reason why we remain a third world country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irresponsible and wanton sexual communion between couples resulting to pregnancies is conveniently called “unintended pregnancies”. The cause is being downplayed and the result is being presented as a malaise that should be addressed.</p>
<p>Couples can abstain from sex, do self-help, use condom, perform it when the woman is safe, or ask her partner to do “coitus interruptus”. The lessons of the birds and the bees do not require that parents should have PhD’s. When they could not do these things, society, the church specifically, is being blamed for the ballooning population and the resulting infants and maternal deaths as if the church or the collective society have something to do with the manner most people engage in promiscuous behaviour and irresponsible conduct.</p>
<p>In RP, the law against abortion suddenly becomes the culprit and society’s moral judgment against pregnant women without  partners becomes a crime. We have our moral compass totally upside down, the very reason why we remain a third world country.</p>
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		<title>By: markpere2010</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[markpere2010]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For everyone&#039;s guidance, here&#039;s a link to the contents of the RH bill. Information is power, and it is needed for us to make informed judgment on issues. 


http://www.gmanews.tv/story/212021/the-consolidated-rh-bill-in-the-15th-congress

- Mark Pere Madrona]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone&#8217;s guidance, here&#8217;s a link to the contents of the RH bill. Information is power, and it is needed for us to make informed judgment on issues. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gmanews.tv/story/212021/the-consolidated-rh-bill-in-the-15th-congress" rel="nofollow">http://www.gmanews.tv/story/212021/the-consolidated-rh-bill-in-the-15th-congress</a></p>
<p>- Mark Pere Madrona</p>
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		<title>By: markpere2010</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[markpere2010]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bigger picture here is the pending reproductive health bill in the Philippine congress. The Catholic church and their allies insist that pushing for contraceptives and the ideal family size is tantamount to abortion. Let&#039;s make this clear: even if the RH bill is passed, abortion remains illegal. 

The bill also do not coerce couples to prefer condoms and artificial birth-control means over the natural ones. It only requires the government to at least educate the public about their options on this regard. What is wrong with that?

Btw, even internationally-acclaimed theater performer Lea Salonga can&#039;t help but slam this ordinance:

http://www.leasalonga.com/index.php/leas-official-blog/280-you-dont-have-any-business-having-sex-part-1.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bigger picture here is the pending reproductive health bill in the Philippine congress. The Catholic church and their allies insist that pushing for contraceptives and the ideal family size is tantamount to abortion. Let&#8217;s make this clear: even if the RH bill is passed, abortion remains illegal. </p>
<p>The bill also do not coerce couples to prefer condoms and artificial birth-control means over the natural ones. It only requires the government to at least educate the public about their options on this regard. What is wrong with that?</p>
<p>Btw, even internationally-acclaimed theater performer Lea Salonga can&#8217;t help but slam this ordinance:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.leasalonga.com/index.php/leas-official-blog/280-you-dont-have-any-business-having-sex-part-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.leasalonga.com/index.php/leas-official-blog/280-you-dont-have-any-business-having-sex-part-1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Emily Rauhala</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily Rauhala]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True -- it seems like politicians who try to take a stand on repro rights back down around election time...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True &#8212; it seems like politicians who try to take a stand on repro rights back down around election time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Rauhala</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily Rauhala]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it&#039;s interesting that the Filipino Catholic hierarchy&#039;s stance seems more conservative than elsewhere. Other Christian goups have embraced family planning as a public health issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s interesting that the Filipino Catholic hierarchy&#8217;s stance seems more conservative than elsewhere. Other Christian goups have embraced family planning as a public health issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Rauhala</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily Rauhala]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make a good point about grassroots and government opposition to the ban. There are indeed many people and groups working to promote reproductive rights in the Philippines. Thanks for reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point about grassroots and government opposition to the ban. There are indeed many people and groups working to promote reproductive rights in the Philippines. Thanks for reading.</p>
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