Why Asia’s Maritime Disputes Are Not Just About China

When it comes to feuds in the Pacific over islands and what lies beneath, it's not simply a case of China against everyone else

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Anti-China protester and former Philippine police officer Abner Afuang burns a Chinese flag in front of the Department of Foreign Affairs in Manila on July 27, 2012

Much of the international coverage and commentary about the disputes over islands in East Asian waters has concentrated on the battle in the South China Sea for territory and resources. And much of that has been framed as a morality play in which China is the villain, most other Asian nations are victims, and the U.S. is a Solomonic figure. On Aug. 10 the Wall Street Journal, referring to Beijing, published an editorial titled “The Bully of the South China Sea.” In another article, Robert Manning of the Washington-based Atlantic Council wrote: “It is one thing if, in a rules-based world, China seeks a larger role in shaping the rules, commensurate with increased economic and political weight. It is quite another if the message is simply about power.” Even Kishore Mahbubani, dean of Singapore’s Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy at the National University of Singapore and an unabashed booster of the global rise of Asia and in particular China, has been critical of Beijing. In a syndicated column Mahbubani said that “China has begun to make serious mistakes” in its dealings with its neighbors.

To be sure, China has upped the ante in the South China Sea stakes and angered, in particular, some members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN). Beijing has established the Sansha municipality and garrison on an island in the Paracels, which China as well as Vietnam and Taiwan claim. It has engaged in a tense naval standoff with the Philippines over a reef called Scarborough Shoal. It has invited foreign companies to tender for oil and gas in disputed waters. The reasons that pundits give for Beijing’s bellicosity range from its appetite for the natural resources of the South China Sea to its desire to look tough amid an uncertain leadership transition and to stir some nationalist fervor at home (witness the violent anti-Japanese protests on the mainland during the weekend) to its irritation at what it thinks is Washington’s interference in its backyard. At a regional conference two years ago, in remarks now often cited as a sign of China’s unilateral ambitions in the South China Sea, Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi infamously declared the body of water to be a “core national interest,” adding: “China is a big country and other countries are small countries, and that is just a fact.”

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It is, but there are other, wider truths. When it comes to feuds in the Pacific over islands and what lies beneath, it’s not simply a case of China against everyone else. Depending on the dispute, it’s also South Korea vs. Japan, Japan vs. Taiwan, Taiwan vs. Vietnam, Vietnam vs. Cambodia and numerous other permutations — for many of the same reasons supposedly behind China’s actions. Resource grab. Patriotic posturing. Historical baggage (mostly to do with Japan’s brutal occupation of most of East Asia before and through World War II). Referring to the South China Sea, former ASEAN secretary general Rodolfo Severino, who now heads Singapore’s Institute of Southeast Asian Studies, wrote recently that “all claimants feel their footholds are essential to what they consider their national interests … This clash of national interests … makes it most difficult even to appear to be making compromises on national integrity or maritime regimes and, thus, almost impossible to resolve [the] disputes.”

Washington says it wants to help keep the peace and to ensure that sea lanes remain free (about a third of the world’s maritime trade passes through these waters). In recent weeks the U.S. has been vocal about what it thinks about the disputes. The State Department said Beijing’s Sansha maneuvers “run counter to collaborative diplomatic efforts to resolve differences and risk further escalating tensions in the region.” When U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta recently met in Washington with his counterpart from Japan, he called again for a “code of conduct” to be set up, especially between China and ASEAN. Such a code, Washington has stated repeatedly, could govern action when an incident like the one in Scarborough Shoal occurs. Said Panetta: “The U.S. will do whatever we can to work with Japan and others to ensure that is the approach we take.” The next day the Foreign Ministry in Beijing ordered in the U.S. embassy’s deputy chief of mission, Robert Wang, and essentially told Washington to butt out.

(MORE: South China Sea Disputes: Is This How War Starts?)

From Beijing’s perspective, the U.S. is taking sides. Besides its traditional allies in the region — Japan, South Korea, the Philippines — Washington has been especially supportive of one of China’s historical rivals, Vietnam, over the South China Sea. While Washington portrays itself as an honest broker, the more cynical reckon the U.S. is adopting the thinking: the enemy of my enemy is my friend — which is how Beijing probably sees it. As Severino writes, “The Chinese fear that those who try to prevent or resent their country’s rise might use the South China Sea to contain it.”

While most East Asian governments welcome the U.S. diplomatic and military “pivot” to the region, they also don’t want China further antagonized. During the recent ASEAN Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in Phnom Penh, chair Cambodia “vetoed” the Washington-backed code of conduct for the association as a whole to deal with China over the South China Sea (as opposed to the bilateral, one-on-one negotiations Beijing wants, which give it more leverage). Many international commentators vilified Phnom Penh for kowtowing to Beijing. But if so, it has good reason: China is Cambodia’s biggest investor and donor; Phnom Penh would have miscalculated by acting against the wishes of its No. 1 patron. That’s just realpolitik. “Perfect neutrality is impossible when some [ASEAN] members are formal allies with one power, or receive large amounts of high-profile aid from another,” writes Simon Tay, chairman of the Singapore Institute of International Affairs and author of Asia Alone, a book about the geopolitics of the region. Here are another couple of truths. First, another ASEAN chair might have acted the same too. Even though its economy is softening, China remains the main driver of economic growth in East Asia. Second, not every ASEAN member has a dog in the South China Sea fight. Why risk enraging the dragon for Vietnam and the Philippines and, to a lesser extent, Malaysia and Brunei?

Amid East Asia’s island fever, there’s big and small, strong and weak, rich and poor, and enlightened and unenlightened self-interest. But not as innocent as good vs. evil.

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98 comments
joethansmith
joethansmith

C'mon bring it on.....Philippines is always ready. History tells we aint back off from nobody. Your inexperienced soldiers will be ducking ours sooner or later!.....no more reasons, BRING IT ON! We'll see who's braver.

pingchenli
pingchenli

flagging comments? some people are sore losers!!! the comment by rory is probably imporant and useful enough to be flagged by dumb comments resulting to a flagging war of supposedly levelheaded people with gits

aragornn23
aragornn23

Just like the Chinese people being brain-washed by their communist government.. Being intruded in the past doesn't give China the right to act like a bully now just because they are starting to enjoy the kind of power and influence that they never had before. How hypocritical to complain on other country's power and influence when China itself greedily wants to have the same kind of power and influence in their own worse way. Good thing the West is way too powerful coz if not China will act like a "man possessed" and "uncontrollable" given their line of thinking and reasoning. Communists will never rule.

Hostrave
Hostrave

Imagine this: You have a huge military, you have an economic might, and if you were China with nothing more could wish for, you would do the same right? 

Piss all over the place and damn grab those resources from militarily weak, economic dirt poor neighbors of yours. 

Now you do you understand? because I understand. 

  

China is testing how far it's expansion could reach until someone or somebody reacts, that started with India, then diverts back to Russia,  wait for the calm and strike back South China Sea expansion to the Philippines and Vietnam, back to East with Korea and Japan. That's plain and simple. China a late bloomer trying hard imperialist.  

Matthew C
Matthew C

Time magazine actually has an opinion on world issues, that's a good start. Unfortunately the commenters haven't gotten any smarter. There are many complex issues behind the disputes, obviously. Even if the US wants to turn this into China bashing, it would just cause more controversy than good. The path of imperialistic nations is to believe they can impose solutions on others. That applies to all of the world powers involved..

Firozali A.Mulla
Firozali A.Mulla

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adam_onge
adam_onge

China is upset, because in its naive arrogance, it assumed that all Southeast Asian nations should be happy to live under the "Protective Umbrella of the Han Chinese". Unfortunately for China, even smaller nations don't always like to be bullied (and making historical imperialistic claims doesn't help). If China had shown more respect for the less powerful countries, there could have been some compromises made, but China is quite adamant about its territorial claims (the nine-dashed line is a core Chinese interest?). They are now using the time-honored strategy of splitting up ASEAN (Laos and Cambodia are already "bribed" by the Chinese) and making this issue become a partisan choice between the US and China (I don't quite understand why China would want to antagonize the Americans?). Anyway the situation is very volatile and it almost looks like China doesn't have too many friends left in the region (except North Korea and possibly Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar).

Matthew Tarazed ChanTwo
Matthew Tarazed ChanTwo

any comment reader who wants true insight on matters relating to the article, please ignore Threedee Pete as he has no clue what he is talking about. To me and possibly many others, he thinks that kissing americas ass will one day grant him american citizenship. Enjoy the rest of the comments!

9ART9NB
9ART9NB

Always look on the bright side of life, 50 years ago China's GDP is about 2.5% of the world GDP, today after decades of business involvement with the US and Western countries PRC is now the world 2nd largest economy and 28% of the world GDP, in fact China has helped the US and Western businesses to many success stories. Possibly the PRC have created billion of jobs around the world, especially US and Europe, thanks to China technologies we now have BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Ford, Toyota, Subaru, Audi, Bentley, Ferrari to travel from B to A; for air travel we have Boeing, Airbus.....without China market these Aircraft manufacturers have nothing to work on; also the world most advanced washing machine (water saving/energy efficient) are invented in China, IT and WWW is also invented by a Chinese person named Wei Wu Wei!; 

me not responsible for what written above, since it's so foggy, I often write tomorrow today news!

rory2012
rory2012

Don't listen to what the Chinese government told you.Just study the western media and US foreign policy with her posture then make up your mind who your friend is.

Swiftright Right
Swiftright Right

I am noticing that many if not most of the posts that take a negative view of China are flagged for review this morning.

TIME I really think your editors need to take a look into this.

K-Rue
K-Rue

Japan just dicovered the valuable underground resouces around Senkaku, and that's when China started paying attention to the islands. They didn't give a single intrest about that before. Plus, alot of the Chinese needs publicicty stunts to raise their political popularity. Also, Japan has one of the world's most weakest military powers and it's weakening every year which is a great time to bring up territorial disputes. Same with Russia and Korea.

Threedee Pete
Threedee Pete

To the author: "Why risk enraging the "Dragon??"So there goes the neutrality down the drain. So is the author suggesting that countries especially the US should just let China do whatever it wants in the region even if its illegal and not according to laws? Coz the author is implying that China is the main dog in the region and everybody are just nuisance. And some bright poster even said this is "Great unbiased article". Perhaps another Communist sympathizer. "Why risk enraging the Dragon??" That question speaks a whole lot! It speaks about people who would just bow down to an up and coming power country and let them wreck havoc at the expense of smaller countries and not care whether it will commit atrocities in the process or not. China can rise without losing the respect of its neighbors. It can rise without resorting to bullying and creating enemies in the process. It can rise without disrespecting International Law, particularly at sea. Just one close look at the map and any logical person would see what is fair or not..But then again, "Why risk enraging the Dragon?" right? Some people just feeds the ego of some country and encourages them to do more harm and bully the others, just because they are the "main driver of economic growth in East Asia." That's how to justify the wrong.

IQMinusOne
IQMinusOne

The picture really shows which side the US is on. The most recent news is about China protesting Japan but the reporter feels that displaying China being protested is better.

The Americans, and previous colonists, set up the disputes in the first place. And now the US is provoking every side for excuses of interfering.

I think the Chinese government is actually playing the cards correctly. That is to use the situation as reasons for military buildup, and eventually US influence might be driven away. There is almost zero chance of any Asian countries firing a first shot when the US is present in the region. The US actually might be the first to do so when it becomes obvious it has to go.

Tim Shaw
Tim Shaw

Great unbiased article that I've read on this topic. Horrible comments though... Everybody need to ctfo.

Threedee Pete
Threedee Pete

These clowns would use their advantage in quantity to control even this forums to try to flag comments which are damaging to them and which they couldn't refute. Typical uncivilized Communist way of controlling things in an unfairly manner just so to gain the upperhand. Pathetic!

Threedee Pete
Threedee Pete

If the Chinese government and its sympathizers will insist on sticking with their ancient historical records as proof of their claims to lands which are clearly not theirs and their clear dislike and hatred on the US and the Americans, then here's one piece of history for you; If not for the West, all of you in Mainland China would be speaking Japanese language by now bowing your ass out endlessly to your Japanese conquerors and without the West you won't get to where you are now, that's the cold painful truth, you ungrateful braggarts. Stay in your own backyard!

Guest
Guest

its time for the japanese to start building their defense forces in response to the Chinese aggression. the chinese can squeal all they want about ww2, but they obviously haven't learnt their lesson

Threedee Pete
Threedee Pete

These clowns would justify the past wrong doings of other countries and the sufferings it brought to people so they can suggest that China should do the same because they are now capable. How twisted the minds and reasoning of these geniuses! For them, they would right the wrong by doing another wrong! But its to their advantage and at the expense of other smaller countries. Typical imperialistic mind. And there you go guys, welcome to the minds of the Communists and how their mind works and reason out at present.

D_evil
D_evil

Look. The Chinese hate the Japanese, for what they did in China.  This is payback time.

Christopher Chan
Christopher Chan

The one standing the greatest to benefit in the ires of neighbor disputes are the thug countries trafficking weapons 

hkispee
hkispee

china is funny, it lost all war in history and declare all these islands belong to them.

chinese were the lowest class

people in all places ruled by mongols.

sorry to mention this.

chinese were the lowest class

slaves (4th class) in manchu empire, again sorry to mention this.

1) manchu (the master)

2.)mongols 3) muslim 4) chinese

chinese were much lower than

austrlian aboriginal in British empire.

sorry to mention this.

manchurian ruled china for

300 year, till 1911,

then japan ruled 2/3 of china

since 1937 till one day before the end of WWII.

in 1979, china attacked

vietnam, in 3 weeks they lost 30,000,

´the death rate was at least

2 chinese:1

china advanced 17km and ran

back

and chinese declared china

won.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/... 

Threedee Pete
Threedee Pete

I'm not against the general Chinese people, coz obviously they're being violated by their own government as well. What I resent is their Communist Government who only get to feel their new found power acts like a bully now, that goes to show their mentality and how desperate they are for power. They complain of the US's influence and power but look at them working so hard to have the same capability and wants to DO THE SAME if given the chance, the difference is, I'm sure, with their type of thinking and reasoning it will be much much worse for the world if they succeed. I can't imagine a world dominated or ruled by Communists. Hell No! But I'm at peace and calm knowing that in the Bible itself, you will never find a passage that symbolizes China to be any kind of significance or being triumphant at that in the End of Days. So keep dreaming Communists.

99Pcent
99Pcent

Asia's problem is not China, it is the CCP and the PLA. Both are mafia outfits. 

Duke Thai
Duke Thai

While it is a matter of national interest, China has been shamelessly bullying its neighbors and wielding its new found power clumsily. Just look at the 9 dots line claim. Only goons amp; thugs would would do that. Too bad, there are good people in China but thugs are ruling the country right now. Funny that China don't want to touch the nutty NK. Obviously, China's message is: "You don't have weapons of mass destruction, you shall submit." So expect all the neighbors of China build nuclear bombs in a very near future.

 

pingchenli
pingchenli

i liken China's way of thinking to how it thought since the "ancient times". They think they are the central kingdom and that other nations should kowtow to them especially smaller ones. The only difference is that they realize the importance of the sea and of the overseas Chinese when in the ancient times they did not care about either. While the world's way of thinking has advanced from colonialism and expansion of territories, China does not. China in my opinion uses more modern methods to mask its imperialism such as "national interests" or "national security" by getting the entire sea. 

pingchenli
pingchenli

I do agree that in part the previous colonists did set up the disputes by naming the sea, the south china sea. Now China thinks it owns the sea and feels that it has better claims because the sea is named after her.  In terms of modern disputes however, it really is also about national security. 

China wants to take the entire sea because historically China LOST because of the sea. China ceded or rather rented forcibly Macau and HK to colonists through the sea and Japan controlled the entire region through the sea. In order for China to gain dominance in the region's affairs and to protect itself against threats as well as have better claim on Taiwan, China needs the sea. 

As for the US influence being driven away, i have to disagree with you entirely. China's posturing is actually just driving the other nations to have America on their backyard. Now who would want that? The Philippines? a former colony of America whose joint exercises are still with much sensitivity? Vietnam? The USA's next almost-Philippines with previous bitter war records? China's increasing the threat of regional security (China's not the only one who made the issue bitter) with an arms race and the danger of war threatening the region is what makes America voice its opinion and turn to the Asia Pacific. Countries would form an alliance out of a more recent political need just to safeguard its own sovereignty against more imminent threats.

Regarding the photo, it's an article about other nations being against China. Although I could understand how some journalists take subjective sides. Better than some journalists I'd say though whose articles are propaganda / blatantly subjective without showing existing claimant's basis/ arguments. The article isn't about China and Japan so it's understandable. I would agree on a bias if the article is about the protests between China and Japan and not Japan against China or the nations against China. But I do agree with the Chinese gov't using the situation for military build up. They also have this excuse that they're getting stronger economically thus improving their military.

cenchina
cenchina

 civilized people would never curse other people in your manner. you believe you are more civilized.  think  again.

Matthew Tarazed ChanTwo
Matthew Tarazed ChanTwo

China was one of the many victims that were brutally raped, experimented on and killed in the name of Japan's emperor. Although it may have nothing to do with today's generation, but Japan ceases to note this in their text books. Despite their apology, it seems that it never really meant anything. How do you think the families that were killed and raped feel that these atrocities were simply "forgotten"? You know nothing about asian history so dont speak like you do.

cenchina
cenchina

 In history, who intruded whom? anything the Chinese do will be tagged as "aggression" , but you America are now intruding other countries and killing common people, you name your actions to be "maintaining peace"! what a logic! you  are brainwashed by your politicians!

Mao Mao Chamn
Mao Mao Chamn

Then there will be war.  War is imminent because the threat of war is real.  USA is obliged to defend Japan because of their mutual defense treaty.  

Same applies to countries of Taiwan and the Philippines.  USA is obliged to come into defense of both countries.  

Taiwan is a sovereign country.  This is Republic of Taiwan.

Mao Mao Chamn
Mao Mao Chamn

Right.  Like the chinese weapons being supplied to the North Koreans.  Those mobile missile launchers are chinese designed and chinese manufactured.  Damn china, what have you done?  China really stirs the hornet's nest.

Mao Mao Chamn
Mao Mao Chamn

You hit the nail on its head and hammer home your point.  Absolutely agree with you, Mr. Pete.

Matthew Tarazed ChanTwo
Matthew Tarazed ChanTwo

you using the bible as a reference just weakens your arguement. its like using a fiction novel to support your arguement

李中华
李中华

You don't know China. Even Obama or Elizabeth comes to administrate China, they can't do better. China has a deep-rooted culture, it is just like a rapier.

Who can unlock the fast knot in the regime?  It is a duty for Chinese people.

But don't focus on China's problem. Then you are a crow standing on the back of a black pig who satire the pig's color.

Make some constructive and useful comments.

9ART9NB
9ART9NB

CIA = Chinese Intelligence Agency!

李中华
李中华

China' s problem is China's. The CCP is still good and the PLA is good too. You can see it from the Sichuan earthquake and Changjiang flood. China's problems are seen in any country in the world. Chinese is good at saying bad words than praising. 

Of course, we have a lot problems. But it is our duty to make it better .

CCP at first is not bad. But now it is not as the beginning just like the KMT. It is a history rule. 

李中华
李中华

How should I comment you?

China foreign policy focus on condemn. And it is a shame for most of Chinese people. Even so, troubles still come to her. 

Diaoyudao is part of China. Huangyan Island also belongs to China. That's knowledge. 

Some Japanese just like clown. They didn't learn a lesson from the 2nd world war, and still act like a robber, they should thanks America. If Japanese act like a robber to China, one day, they can act like a robber to any country. It is just a question of time.

China's Nuclear is for self-defense. Until now, have you ever seen that china throw a bomb  or atomic bomb to any country in the world? No. Who did? The US The England The France. Don't say it is for justice. Have you asked the opinion of the common people in the countries? Have you asked them if they would like to die in the bombing? Nobody cares.

Matt Lee
Matt Lee

Oh yes, the continued propaganda that only China is the only one being aggressive in the matter. Did you happen to ignore the article? Cases in point.

Vietnam passes a maritime law declaring Paracels and Spratlys are under its jurisdiction. China responds by elevating status of Sansha.

Vietnam conducts routine fighter patrols over contested areas. China responds with "combat ready" sea patrols.

Vietnam claims exceed EEZ, no different than others in terms of excessive claims.

Vietnam incursions into Taiwanese held islands increase year over year exponentially. Taiwanese respond by upping armament on Taiping Island and mull over extending runway to support larger airlifts when needed.

Philippines claims exceed EEZ as well, so again no different in excessive claims.

Philippines gets her first ex-Hamilton cutter making her the new naval flagship. Then proceeds to send that in to arrest a bunch of fishermen, sending off the wrong symbolic message to which the other side won't back down.

Threedee Pete
Threedee Pete

That's what you get when someone's thinking and way of living continues to be left in the past. China has developed and become somewhat modern on the surface, but deep down inside its people and government are still stuck to the past or shall we say the "ancient times" that you're saying. You hit the bullseye on that one. While their customs and traditions seems intriguing and interesting to foreigners but no one really wants to be subject to that kind of ways especially the way of their Communist government. China thinks that they are the "mother" of all Asia that everyone should rally behind her to challenge the West in due time, imperialist thinking really, you are correct again on that one..But anyway, I don't see them dominating the World in any given time in the future because there's always someone better and the West will always thump them in any given time..Communists will never rule in this good earth.

IQMinusOne
IQMinusOne

"Well i think your IQ is really a minus. But I do agree that in part the

previous colonists did set up the disputes by naming the sea,"

You apparently edited your post but not before the original ended up in my mailbox.

I just wanted to tell you my IQ is actually an unsigned number. Perhaps you already figured that out by now. Hope you can also figure out the true meaning of my name (hint: it is not about the best or worst).

Threedee Pete
Threedee Pete

Did I even brag about how civilized I am? I know what I'm saying, its better that its only me rather than my own government doing the same uncivilized thing which is what the Chinese government is doing, disrespecting International laws and bullying and provoking its smaller neighbors. What a shame and shame on you justifying those actions of theirs!

pingchenli
pingchenli

China's not the only victim but you don't see other countries crying about it in frustration to the world. Well we can see similarities with how Japan deals with that and how China deals with its news right? Japan censors that from its textbooks the same way China censors and enlarges itself in its textbooks. 

Guest
Guest

china needs to quit playing the victim then posture and threaten its smaller neighbors. it's past time for the surrounding countries to be able to have military options against the red menace, and that absolutely includes japan.  

pingchenli
pingchenli

So previous wars and aggressions by other nations are China's excuse for doing so in this time? well grow up! Of course China is being aggressive here, it doesn't need a professor to note that. Just check out the state media press releases about generals wanting to teach these smaller nations a lesson. 

Mao Mao Chamn
Mao Mao Chamn

This is the line being sold to the chinese population by the clique of communist gangsters in the politburo.

pingchenli
pingchenli

I agree.. In my knowledge of Taiwan and China historical relations. There was a time prior to the civil war in China where Japan attacked Taiwan and China did not retaliate. It is because for the medieval Chinese, any overseas Chinese are not considered Chinese citizens. 

I hope that there is no war but the rising tensions not only between countries but in the entire region threatens the peace. 

Gilsonn Pete
Gilsonn Pete

It depends on a person's point of view. Sour graping? Even in the Bible, your all mighty country is nothing of any significance. Its the Bible genius, and which writings are you in agreement with? the "Holy" Red book? Get outta here!

Threedee Pete
Threedee Pete

I'm not focusing on China's problem. All I want is f or your country to stay in your backyard. Don't go out spreading fairy tales and 9 point bulls*t and all that ancient historical crap. Those are the reasoning of the uncivilized. We are in the modern world with rules and laws wheter in land or sea. China doesn't want to bring disputes in the proper International courts, they want it settled bilaterally, do you know why? Because they know their case wont stand a chance in the proper courts so with their enormous size and quantity, they will just bully the smaller nations to get what they want, especially lands and oil from it. So just zip it coz I won't be swayed by your Communists propaganda.

TwiggyRamirez
TwiggyRamirez

China should stop infringing and respect the Republic of the Philippines territorial sovereignty over the Kalayaan Islands and Panatag Shoal which are based on international laws and not just by fabricated maps and twisted history.

Dhodz Hart Ptn
Dhodz Hart Ptn

 CCP and PLA are good in doing BAD if u don't know... brainwashed

Duke Thai
Duke Thai

Ohh..that game again. Right, China has been always the victim of the bullying amp; provocation by South East Asia nations. "Those little countries! How dare them to provoke the Central Empire. Be prepared to hear the sound of cannons." Sound familiar?

Why conveniently begin with the marine time law that a country supposed to have. The islands had been/have been in the Vietnam administration long before China even started the the claim. It should have a marine law.

How about beginning with thousand years of repetitive invasions. Then the recently bloody 1974 invasion of The Spratly Islands. Then supporting of Pol Pot and 1979 invasion that thousands died just to "teach Vietnam a lesson." And the 1988 Johnson South Reef Skirmish. Then countless recently harassment amp; robberies on the sea by Chinese fishermen/poachers and the so called China Marine Surveillance. Then the nine dot map. Even China itself doesn't have a clue how they came up with such map. It based on NOTHING but GREED.

Funny, China is being quite respectful to Malaysia and Indonesia. Can't afford to tick off the Muslim countries huh. They don't play nice like the others. Having a handful  in Uyghur already? And with self-immolation in Tibet? What pain that cause one to burn oneself to protest? Once they have realized the Chinese (and the world) don't give a damn about them, they will try something else that China would understand.

9ART9NB
9ART9NB

Chinese communist party is the best, CCP is number 1, do not deny, do not deny; CCP has China town in every country, Mao is number one, Confucius is nothing

China has no shortcomings, China's history is the oldest, do not deny these facts.

Roger Zhong is no ignoranus, cunning indeed, do not deny, he can read and write English, but comprehension is still limited.

Communism originates from China, CCP's birth is in the 1800

Karl Marx is a son of Peasants

China defeated Russia 1969, do not deny

What written above is so foggy

Charles Nguyễn
Charles Nguyễn

Spratly and Paracel islands belongs to Vietnam. Stop stealing other people's lands China.

Roger Zhong
Roger Zhong

To say you are being ignorant is really a huge understatement! Chinatowns existed before the CCP's birth in 1921. Do I need to say more? If you want to sound a little credible, at least try to read on some history before you open your mouth to poison the masses. Yes, China has its shortcomings, but so does every other country on earth. Just because it is a communist country does not make it automatic evil and the villain in every international dispute.