The Agents of Outrage

The deadly attacks on U.S. diplomatic outposts in Egypt and Libya raise the question, Did the Arab Spring make the Middle East more dangerous?

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Soon after that, the thread was picked up in Egypt by a TV host every bit as inflammatory and opportunistic as Jones: Sheik Khaled Abdallah of the Islamist satellite-TV station al-Nas. Supported by unknown backers, the channel traffics in demagoguery and hatemongering. Abdallah is its star. In previous broadcasts, he has called the revolutionaries of the Arab Spring “worthless kids” and condemned newspapers that don’t support his views. But he reserves his harshest criticism for the country’s Coptic Christians, who make up about a tenth of the population.

For Abdallah, the fact that a Copt was promoting an anti-Muhammad film endorsed by the Koran-burning pastor was too much. On his Sept. 8 show, he broadcast some of the clips, now dubbed in Arabic. In one scene that was aired, “Muhammad” declares a donkey the “first Muslim animal” and asks the creature if it likes the ladies. Abdallah’s show, complete with the offensive video, was also posted on YouTube, and it has attracted over 300,000 views.

Abdallah’s show was a dog whistle to the Salafists, a fundamentalist Islamic movement that makes up the second largest faction in the Egyptian parliament. For months, organized Salafist groups had been protesting in small numbers in front of the U.S. embassy in Cairo, calling for the release of Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind sheik currently in a North Carolina prison, convicted for plotting a series of bombings and assassinations in the 1990s. They were joined on Sept. 11 by prominent leaders like Nader Bakar of the Salafist Nour Party and Mohammed al-Zawahiri, brother of Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden’s longtime deputy and now head of al-Qaeda.

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The leaders had left by the time the mob attacked the embassy and took down the U.S. flag, while Egyptian security forces, hopelessly outnumbered, mostly just watched. The crowd eventually dispersed. Afterward, some Salafist leaders said the flag was snatched by members of a soccer-hooligan group known as the Ahli Ultras.

Not far from Egypt’s western border, in the Libyan city of Benghazi, on the anniversary of the 2001 attacks at the World Trade Center, the Muhammad movie had provoked another mob of several hundred mostly Salafist protesters to gather at the U.S. consulate. Many witnesses have since fingered a group known as Ansar al-Shari‘a for organizing the protests; the group denies it.

Ambassador Stevens, visiting from Tripoli, was an unlikely target. He had worked closely with the leaders of the uprising against Muammar Gaddafi and was well liked by most Libyans. But some reports now suggest that lurking amid the mob was a more malevolent force: members of the local chapter of al-Qaeda.

Only the previous day, Ayman al-Zawahiri had issued a new videotaped statement from his hideout, confirming the death of his Libyan deputy Abu Yahya al-Libi in a June U.S. drone strike and calling for him to be avenged. Reports from Benghazi say armed jihadists infiltrated the protesting crowds. An al-Qaeda-affiliated group known as the Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades is suspected to have carried out the attack. The White House was still scrambling a day after the attack to piece together what happened and whether it could have been prevented. A senior Administration official said the Benghazi attack was “complex” and “well organized” but would not comment on reports that it was planned in advance by militants using the protest as a diversion.

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149 comments
Ali-Hassan Ayub
Ali-Hassan Ayub

more or less this is a fair account...however, it is blatantly false and malicious to claim that the Pakistani military is involved with ANY sectarian related attacks on Muslims within Pakistan. The Pakistan Army is not affiliated with any sect or ethnicity, it is a professional organization that draws its men (and women) from people of ALL backgrounds in Pakistan. Please be careful before spreading such misinformation.

In fact Pakistan Army was called by government to protect the embassies in Islamabad - which they have done quite well so far. 

Pete20122012
Pete20122012

Also how come the Holy city of Macca or Saudi Arabia has no protests?

Pete20122012
Pete20122012

I believe the problem with Islam is the fact that it considered anyone with a different religious is an infidels. Moreover the word infidel to them is not considered an insult but rather an adjective or a description. Anyway when you classify someone as an infidel they become less human and all abuses against them is justified.  This is why all the minorities in most Muslim countries are being persecuted. The real question why is the current government is supporting and working with Muslim brotherhood, Salfies and all these religious nut jobs? They will never love America or care about it even if America licked their A** *****. 

Bashy Quraishy
Bashy Quraishy

What I can add to this debate of how much hate there is towards west and particularly USA in the Muslim countries?

I live in Denmark but I come from Pakistan, which comprises of 94% Muslim population. In

my youth, over 95% Pakistanis loved USA, had great feeling for all the good it

was doing in the world at that time. You never heard a bad word for Americans.

Even religious parties had friendly relations with official USA. I also went to

study in USA in sixties along with a large number of other young Pakistanis who

appreciated the American education system, openness of the people and

hospitality. It was the same case in the rest of the Muslim world. Today, the

picture is the opposite. There are many reasons but the primary one is that the

majority of Muslims dislike, the over bearing attitude, arrogant manners and

constant interference in Muslim countries for oil, resources and imposition of

the new world order. I am sure that if Muslim countries did the same in USA,

the hatred would be the same. No country and people like to be pushed around.

There is no doubt that media has played a big role in this false picture of

Islam in the west but violence and emotional response from a tiny percent among

Muslim populations to the constant provocations from the west has also

contributed to this sorry state of affairs.

Papi97w
Papi97w

Isn't  ANYONE competent in this administration?

YoufanP
YoufanP

Muslims dislikes (and hates -for some extremists) U.S. because (majority of) Muslims think:

1. U.S. always supports Israel, and gives a large sum of money and weapons to Israel, which in turn, invades Palestine, kills their Muslim brothers and sisters, destroy their homes. People can argue about who has the right over Jerusalem, but this is clearly one of the main reasons to dislike U.S. for Muslims.

2. U.S. invades lots of Muslim countries, under reasons that Muslims cannot accept, Afghanistan and Iraq are examples (I know about Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, or so-called the WMDs -invading a country only for looking a man is probably lil bit un-acceptable for Muslims I think). Iran is an optional next target. U.S. also involves in "another" invansions, including but not limited in: Libya (so-called led by France), Yemen, Pakistan, etc. Muslims think that NATO is being led by U.S., so every NATO intervention in Islamic countries, that leads to innocent Muslims being killed, either by U.S. troops or by drones (the innocent victims are not just 4? -U.S. calls it collateral damages), it's U.S. faults. Being killed by other Muslims is okay for some Muslims, being killed by Taliban is okay for some Muslims, being killed by Assad regime is okay (maybe?), all of them are Muslim affairs, (majority of) Muslims think Muslims don't need U.S. helps with U.S. foreign policies. When U.S. interveres Muslim affairs (either because some Muslim oppositions ask it or U.S. has initiatives), U.S. is the next target to be blamed. Muslims are raised under belief that a Muslim is the brother or sister of another Muslims. So when U.S. attacks Afghanistan, other Muslims in other countries will automatically dislike U.S., because Muslims in other countries believe that Muslims in Afghanistan (or in Palestine for another example) are their brothers. U.S. foreign policies to intervere "every" Muslim problems are hurting Muslims in general, and that will make Muslims dislike U.S.. Saying "I am from America (U.S.)" with "I am from Switzerland" will get different responses and reactions from Muslims I bet.

3. U.S. corporations are taking (in a Muslim perspective) a h-ll lot of Muslim countries' natural resources (really, this is a matter too), including but not limited to: Oil, gas, gold, etc. (name one Muslim country that doesn't have a U.S. corporation there, if any?). I wonder, is there any statistic about how many U.S. corporations in Islamic countries and how many natural resources are taken? Leave Muslims alone, living in tents and riding camels are okay for some Muslims, rather than their natural resources being taken away or U.S. troops making a base in their land. About technology, cars, weapons, etc., Muslims think Muslims can ask or buy from China, Japan, or Russia (have you ever heard "Death to China" or "Death to Russia" by a Muslim? If any, it's more geo-political than religious, like maybe in Chechnya). That's what (majority of) Muslims think.

4. Generalization. There are 1.5 billions of Muslims in this world. But just because some millions of Al-Qaeda members and radicals kill U.S. people, U.S. people blame the whole 1.5 billions of Muslims. It's like burning the whole beehive just because one stup-d bee stings you. The rest of the bees will attack you too ofcourse. A retallion. Regardless actually it's the one stup-d bee's fault. By the way, not all Muslims are Arabs. Even Arab Muslims count only around 20% of total Muslim population (Iran or Afghanistan aren't Arab countries, in case some people don't know). Not all U.S. people are good, so do not all Muslims are bad (or extremists).

5. U.S. people always think that Muslims should "behave" like them, Muslims should "react" like what U.S. people want, Muslims should "be" like U.S. people, and that Muslim ideologies are soo Middle Ages, low-class, etc. Christians react like this when Jesus is being ridiculed, so Muslims should react the same when Muhammad is being ridiculed. Germans and Japan don't hate U.S. after U.S. bombed their cities, so Muslims should not hate U.S. too after U.S. bombed Muslim cities. And other should should should. While in other hand, Muslims think, who are U.S. people that Muslims should follow? Why should Muslims follow U.S. people? Why should Muslims behave like U.S. people? In fact, we cannot predict or ask people to react like what we want. U.S. people want Muslims to respect free speech like in the West, but in other hand, (majority of) U.S. people don't respect Muslim beliefs about Allah and Muhammad. By U.S. standards, Muslim ways of life are bad, un-educated, so Middle Ages, backward, etc. But by Muslim standards, U.S. isn't good either. You cannot force democracy to people who believe that monarchy is better. Clash is what will happen. For U.S. people, something may be morally good, but for Muslims it may be morally wrong.

6. Free speech to insult others is okay in U.S. but it isn't okay in Muslim countries. Muslims believe in very strict rules. Muslims shouldn't do this, Muslims should do that, Muslims shouldn't eat this, Muslims should eat that, and thousands other religious rules. U.S. people can expect free speech in the U.S., but don't expect the same thing in Muslim countries. Sam Bacile can make a film that mocks Muhammad in the U.S. and everything will be okay in the U.S., but don't expect the same thing will happen in Muslim countries, there are consequences. Each Muslim has his/her own level of rules to be applied. Some Muslim women may wear niqab, the other may wear hijab, other even show their hairs.

Personally, I think this is a CLASH OF CIVILIZATION (and a CULTURE SHOCK for both parties).

U.S. people cannot understand how can Muslims believe that Muhammad shouldn't be depicted in any image, in other hand, Muslims cannot understand how can U.S. people think that 1st Amandment is soo important.

The film "Innocence of Muslims" is just a little fire that burns a house which is already covered with gasoline since several years ago. I just hope it doesn't burn the whole mountain.

This won't change until both parties try to understand each other and stop using weapons to kill each other (yes, both parties DO use weapons under lots of reasons). People can dislike my comment, people can like my comment. I just probably write something random here.

I'm just wondering: How many real Muslims that U.S. people know personally? And how many real U.S. people that Muslims know personally?

How can I judge you're bad while I never meet you personally.

YoufanP
YoufanP

I don't justify the killing of the Ambassador anyway. It's wrong.

AnnaKP
AnnaKP

Why are the embassy workers and security personnel also called "American diplomats?"

Pacific Vacuum
Pacific Vacuum

When is the last time you people heard that a Christian/ Buddhist/ Hindu devotee blew himself up and 10 others for religion? 

Just a pile of retarded cowards.  The Muslim world largely falls silent - no condemnation, no speaking out against it, just silent compliance.  You make me sick.

aatif shahdad
aatif shahdad

 christian - 6 million jews massacred

hindu- thousands massacred in 1984,1991-92,2001

buddhist- thousands massacred in past two months in burma

for details, the christian in this case: adolf hitler

hindu: read about 1984 anti sikh riots, 1992 anti muslim riots, 2001 anti muslim riots and anti christian riots in 1998 and 1999 by hindu groups: shiv sena, bajrang dal and visha hindu parishad which btw has offices in UK and elsewhere

buddhists: read about what is happening in Burma right now, ofc u wouldnt know, i am sure murdoch's media empire doesnt care about thousands of muslims getting killed.

the facts speak for themselves. come back when u brush up on ur knowledge of world affairs.

Pete20122012
Pete20122012

Regarding Buddist Sorry i forget to tell you. These problems started because some Muslims men (not one) rape and murdered a buddist girl.   

Pete20122012
Pete20122012

The difference between these wars and the Jihadist the cause. Jihadist are doing it in the name of GOD and for his Prophet other wars i am listing the causes of them for you.

Sikh riots 1984 is because 2 sikh bodygaurds killed the prim Minister of India ( not religious motivated it's political).

1992 its because they demolished a mosque and muslim there went crazy and started fighting. Noting that it is okay to burn churches/ temples in Islamic countries. 

Adolf Hitler did not kill the Jews in the name of God or to avenge Jesus. Not to mention that the people who took him down were Christian too. 

Matthew Thomas
Matthew Thomas

The entire Muslim faith is a cancer to humanity as we know it.  The only thing that they know is ignorance, violence and loath for all woman and backward thinking that no longer has a place in a world that needs to evolve.  The moderates among them will do nothing to stand up to the extremists.

Their childish and fairy tail beliefs are truly pathetic.  Why anyone would believe in a such a pitiful and childlike god is beyond me.  God exists but the Muslim faith comes no where close to portraying the true God.  There god, a god who made everything, is nothing more than a petty version of a hate mongering 3rd grader who dreams of virgins in heaven.  I would like to think that the ultimate power and the afterlife are a little more than some over-simplistic human vision.

False_believer
False_believer

Take something that large numbers of people hold dear, paint someone you don't like as a threat to it and presto!, you have an army at your command. Not a very original power play and certainly not unique to the Muslim world, but it still works.

rory2012
rory2012

I say it all along that the film is only the catalyst.What happens throughout Middle East now is the expression of the people against the West what West did to their culture  and suppress the political self determination of the Arabs throughout history with threat all the time.The emotion finally exploded.

Laroye
Laroye

Here in France we have freedom of speech but we also have a law that severely condemns "incitation of racial hate". You can say what you want but you will have to bear the consequences of what you sow and might end up broke or in prison. I am revulsed at the savage mobs attacking embassies and looking for a kill in the name of religion yet I also think freedom of speech is not the freedom to insult others.

superlogi
superlogi

What you have in France is a socialist mob whose entitled lifestyle has been guaranteed for a generation.  Unfortunately, that will all end, one way or the other and it won't be pretty when it does.  Oh, by the way, congratulations on your election of your new socialist technocrat, Mr. Hollande.  It will be interesting to see in which order European countries go bankrupt.  I suspect France will go belly up just after Spain.  What do you think?  

Laroye
Laroye

I think your off topic and that you are a die hard xenophobic and paranoid "know it all" quick to stand up with a pavlonian reflex whenever he hears the words "French ou "France". Despite your "Shadenfreude" and apparent delight in the supposed failure of our system, we have a 2000 year old history and went though worse times and will ultimately manage to overcome this crisis created by the anglo saxon ultra capitalist finance.

superlogi
superlogi

No shadenfeude.  In fact, having spent quite some time in your beautiful country, the only bad thing about it, is that the French live there.  Not all mind you, but most.  But tell me, how are you going to tax all those millionaires into oblivion when they move to Belgium?  I know, the French are ingenious at solutions to confiscate other peoples property, so you'll find a way.  Laissez le bon temps roller.

PS  For a progressive, any problem is always caused by someone else.  We have the same situation in this country.

Heterotic
Heterotic

 So you do not have freedom of speech, typical French.

Laroye
Laroye

I am happy we don't have freedom to spread hate.

atlasdeuced
atlasdeuced

Mass media from the US has been insulting the Muslim faith for decades. The 700 Club was broadcasting world-wide television in the ‘70s, calling almost all non-Christians “infidels” when the only other world-wide broadcast from the US was the Voice of America. Violent reactions to these “broadcasts,” although worthy of condemnation, and not the preference of the vast majority of the world, must be expected, because the inevitable result is a confrontation between extremists from both sides. Unfortunately, the innocent get caught in it. Ridiculing non-Christian religions is not an American principle, but freedom of speech is. It’s that principle allows us to know who the morons and fools are.

Romney’s reaction to all of this was the act of a desperate man.

aatif shahdad
aatif shahdad

 Freedom of speech when exploited can be very dangerous. if i stand infront of ur house, call ur dead mother with the choicest of insults or ur father or whoever is dearest to u and keep repeating it and then make a video as a spoof on ur mother or daughter or wife and make a video of her insulting , mocking her , attributing lies to her  even though she is dead in the worst possible ways and put it on youtube. how will u react ? would u play cool ? if u would, then u ,sir, "hath no self respect" !

superlogi
superlogi

I'd just go out and kick your dumb a$$ around the block.  But that has nothing to do with the law of the land.  It's a personal thing and I would no doubt be punished for it.  Furthermore, the excuse used to murder these four innocent people, had nothing to do with the people murdered.  You do see the difference, don't you?  If you don't, you're as ignorant as the terrorists who've attacked our embassies.  Frankly, I'd simply leave these countries to their own devices and allow their blood thirstiness to be satisfied by killing each other and then deal with the last man standing.

PS Screw the movie. No movie is an excuse to kill innocents you freaking dweeb. Get a life. And, we'll get the oil simply because we have the money and you don't. The fact is, without American dollars, you'd drown in it.

You know, we're not all the pathetic pussies you think we are, who kill people on the television. Some of us have actually been to war and we're damned good at it. Don't p!ss us off.

aatif shahdad
aatif shahdad

 where in my post do u see me condoning the killings of the consulate employees? i have repeatedly asserted how i condemn it. But, what r u and the americans doing to condemn the outrage that has been a direct outcome of that sick pathetic movie? instead u r making the situation worse. we would all love to see US and Nato leave the middle east to their fate. but, then again, there is a reason they will never leave. it starts with an 'O' , ends with a 'L' ? Its called OIL. also, take a moment out to contemplate why america is so hated everywhere in the world . there is no smoke without a fire.thanks

Commenter88
Commenter88

In US law, the presumption is that people will act with reasonable behavior. Murdering people for saying something inoffensive has, and always will be, considered unreasonable and undermines the very meaning of civil society and progress of human rights. Unfortunately, if someone does not possess the logical capacity to understand this, then not much can be done to help him.

aatif shahdad
aatif shahdad

when u exploit ur freedom of speech to a point where it interferes with my right to religion, my right to choose my religion, with my right to LIVE, it isnt freedom of speech anymore. Your freedom of speech shouldnt come at someone else's cost. Progress of human rights? really!? what human rights do u talk of ? the american version of human rights? that one where muslims are slaughtered everyday using remote controlled flying bots called as drones like they r zombies in a video game. i have seen videos where american troops in iraq seem to think the humans they r killing are worth no more than zombies and wonder why there isnt a high score after they r done.

do u possess the logical capacity, the knowledge about recent  facts ? let me help u. since 2001 , american drones have claimed over 3000 human lives in drone attacks alone in pakistan. now, this is from US official sources. this is roughly equal to the number of americans killed in 9/11. i am talking about drones alone. george galloway(british mp) in his address to the us senate said, 1 million children died in iraq due to US sanctions. children!! not even old enough to speak!!

 1.6 million humans have been killed in iraq and afghanistan . 1.6 Million!! where was ur humanity then ? is ur humanity selective? does it apply only to american lives? 4 americans died in libya, the world in talking about it. u people r in an uproar calling for condemnation of muslims, their countries. calling us savages. Where is Your 'humanity' now ? is the life of a US diplomat worth more than the lives of 1 million children? having said this, i dont condone the diplomat's death. i dont think he deserved it. i make the effort to condemn it wherever i see a topic related to it. where do americans in general, u in particular, condemn the killings of 1.6 million humans since 2001 in the middle east? most of them children , too young to even speak. dont talk to me about humanity, when u dont know the 'H' of Humanity!

Jaysonrex
Jaysonrex

THERE IS NO PLACE FOR APPEASERS IN THIS WAR BETWEEN ISLAM AND THE REST OF THE WORLD. AFTER 1300 PLUS YEARS OF THE SAME OLD BULLSH.T, INCLUDING SAINT MUHAMMAD THE PROPHET AND ALL, NOTHING WILL CHANGE THE MENTALITY OF THESE STRANGE CREATURES. SORRY, BUT THIS IS THE TRUTH MANY WILL FIND HIGHLY INCONVENIENT.  

Commenter88
Commenter88

This is just thinly-veiled  anti-American demagoguery dressed up in journalistic euphemism. At the very center of this piece is the critique: a US culture that does not take very extreme actions to  censor and censure idiotic zealots (note here that such idiots, according to the author, are always addressed as "Islamaphobes" while all Muslims who kill merit no such epithets or invective). If there is anyone trading in an "industry of outrage," it is so called journalists who get paid to write such skewed representations and spread their glib and oily, dressed-up Western bigotry in receipt for a paycheck.

Any responsible characterization of this episode would not leave out the centuries-old oppression of the Coptics under Islamic rule and law, which has squarely and egregiously violated profound and basic human rights without apology or acknowledgment. We are not talking about slurs against Christian prophets here--more like purges, murder of women and children, and widespread abuse. Though, admittedly, it has not been as bad as the Islamic-manipulated holocausts of Assyrians and Armenians under the Turks. But hey, let's not get factual when talking about "actual" cultural abuses, here.

Imputing American cultural  blame for backlashes of Coptics under Islamic tyranny and abuse  is not only incorrect and misguided,  it malevolently and deceptively hooks broad American (READ: cultural)  involvement into something that otherwise might simply pass as an event in history. Talk about an industry of outrage.

Mohamed Salem
Mohamed Salem

Americans we are not jealous of you simply because you do not have anything that we wanted to have. you are ancestors of  the crusades who invaded and destroyed  everything of value, same could be said about your number one ally Israel and the their unforgettable crimes against  the Palestinians, your problem with us is you are trying to control on our world and we are resisting that, It's your time do we whatever what you wish and we will not ask for mercy, but when it turn us you spend the rest of your time ..............?

William Bantam
William Bantam

Try not to let this denigrate into 'us' and 'them' it's far more nuanced than that.

MidEastGeographer
MidEastGeographer

What is going on in the Arab world is not directly correlated to this video. The youths who are protesting the video have nothing better to do with their lives. They are poor, uneducated, unemployed and bored.  I think that rioting and destroying things is fun for them and the video was just a "justified" excuse for them to channel their energy. The Arab leaders are happy to tolerate this behavior because they can throw the US under the bus and divert their citizens dissent away from domestic issues.  If you look at  the pictures you will notice that many of the young men seem to be enjoying pillaging and lighting things on fire.  

Now, there is no excuse for the damage to the US embassies and the killing of our ambassador. These nations and their citizens are accountable for their actions they are at fault, not the film maker. We live in the 21st century not the 6th century and you can't expect to get off consequence free. There will be consequences to this behavior. The consequences will be the continuation of the US viewing the Arab World as a bunch of angry children who are without strong parental supervision.What does this mean for the Arab world, you will not be viewed as an equivalent power,ally or even worthy opponents, you will just be seen as a pawn in the international game of politics and energy security, an angry people who just so happen to sit on the oil we need. 

Don't let these thugs represent who you are, prove to us that you are ready for democracy and international respect.  Educate us through your righteous actions and show the true face of the Arabs. A society that invented algebra, astrolabes, preserved Greek literature and advanced western civilization.  This is the Arab character the west needs to see, not Arab gangs. The Arab and the Muslim world should not be stereotyped by the actions of these young thugs. Most Arabs strongly denounce the reaction to this film and only want to live in peace and harmony in a part of the world that has been void of that. The Arab community must unify to denounce those that preach this sort of doctrine. To make a fair analogy, westerns don't analyze the world of American Christendom through the actions of the Klu Klux Klan, nor should they analyze the  Arab world through the actions of the Islamic extremists.  A progressive liberal Arab group needs to be louder and stronger  than the thugs otherwise the Arab world is doomed to collapse by its own hand. The Arabs should look at Turkey as an example, which has been the most successful progressive Muslim state in the last century if they wish to advance socio-economically. 

Commenter88
Commenter88

Well, don't look at the Turks too closely, or back too far. There are those pesky historical incidents knows as the Armenian and Assyrian holocausts. But yes, secularism has served them well of late and they seem to be the only government that has adopted a modern notion of human rights (well, at least a minimum threshhold). 

By the way, when did the KKK blow up buildings and murder thousands of human beings? I must have missed that in my US history class. But I get your point.

aatif shahdad
aatif shahdad

 is it deliberate ignorance that u compare muslims with the klu klux ? was that the only 'enemy' u ever had ? are u ignorant of how many people died in the middle east and elsewhere in US led wars? of how many innocents die everyday in pakistan in drone attacks? how many children who couldnt yet speak much less identify themselves as muslims died in the US sanctions on iraq? the numbers r over a million. so set ur own terrorizing country in order first before trying to inculcate humanity and the american version of it in us. the american version, where one american life is equal to 500 muslim lives. let me tell u why, around 3000 innocents died in the 9/11 holocaust and in the wars led by US after that, the number of muslims that died is equal to 1.6 million dead and countless amputated , injured , devastated. Start brushing up ur G.K , for starters start by trying to point the middle east on a world map.

Robin Osgood
Robin Osgood

I saw your interview tonight on Charlie Rose. Culminating your interview with this article does show a great deal of knowledge. However, I have to disagree with your statement you made to Charlie that I interpreted as you didn't think those here in America which were committing the acts of 'rage' which are leading to the terror are meaning to help the radical fundamentalist justify calling for attacks.

Let me first say I don't condon on any level the violence. However, I understand what is sparking it, who and why they are doing it.

Yes, we have freedom of speach. With that freedom comes great responsiblity. It should never be used to create or insight acts of violence which these people in our country are purposely doing with fore thought.

They know full well what will happen when they do it and why. The why they are doing it is the frightening part. They too, as the fundamental radical Islamist want a 'holy war.' However, these fundamental, supposed 'Christians' want it for a different reason. They believe if they can get this 'holy war' against the forces of Gog and Magog as foretold in the books of Ezekiel and Revelation they will be ushering in Armagedon thus helping Christ return. Scripture teaches 'no man knoweth the hour.'

Why anyone who truly believes in my Divine God who is so powerful that he created all the heavens and Earth believes they have to commit such evil acts as this to help The all powerful God, I haven't a clue but they do. Now they will probably never openly admit it, but this is their mission. They want the 'holy war' which they call Armageddon.

Problem is, if you are truly God's children and Christ own, this isn't what you are suppose to be doing.

 'Blessed is the peace maker.'

Disrespecting what others believe and who they are, never brings about peace. Doing something purposely that you know which is the equivalent to srtiking the match which will set  a major fire, which is what these people in our country have been doing.  They are not peace makers but also a form of 'jhadist' because they too want a 'holy war.'

mdshams22
mdshams22

Did Time cesure  my comments ?

MnlaBoy
MnlaBoy

Democracy strengthens Theocracy. Tehran and Manila exemplifies that. They have Khomeini, we had Cardinal Sin.

Democracy is just a numbers game... who has the influence on the majority has the power.

And really, the fear of going to hell is much stronger than the fear of going to jail. You'll end up people taking the Quran and the Bible as the rule above the Law.

ArmyoftheDog
ArmyoftheDog

You can't force democracy on people who are not ready for it.

Heterotic
Heterotic

Did the Arab Spring make the Middle East more dangerous, well let's look at some other majority muslim "democracies"; Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, etc. Hmm, tough tho answer that question.

Kissmabums
Kissmabums

All those countries mentioned by you ate dangerous places. But the Arab Spring places used to be a lot less dangerous .