Spy Fail: Why Iran Is Losing Its Covert War with Israel

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad delivers a speech under portraits of the late founder of the Islamic Republic, Ayatullah Ruhollah Khomeini, left, and Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei in Tehran's Azadi Square on Feb. 10, 2013

Slumped in a Nairobi courtroom, suit coats rumpled and reading glasses dangling from librarian chains, the defendants made a poor showing for the notorious Quds Force of the elite Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. Ahmad Abolafathi Mohammed and Sayed Mansour Mousa had been caught red-handed and middle-aged. And if the latter did them a certain credit — blandly forgettable always having been a good look for a secret agent — the prisoners still had to explain why they had hidden 15 kg of the military explosive RDX under bushes on a Mombasa golf course.

Created to advance Iran’s interests clandestinely overseas, the Quds Force has lately provided mostly embarrassment, stumbling in Azerbaijan, Georgia, India, Kenya and most spectacularly in Thailand, where before accidentally blowing up their Bangkok safe house, Iran’s secret agents were photographed in the sex-tourism mecca of Pattaya, one arm around a hookah, the other around a hooker. In its ongoing shadow war with Israel, the Iranian side’s lone “success” was the July 18 bombing of a Bulgarian bus carrying Israeli tourists — though European investigators last week officially attributed that attack to Iran’s Lebanese proxy, Hizballah. That leaves the Islamic Republic itself with a failure rate hovering near 100% abroad and an operational tempo — nine overseas plots uncovered in nine months — that carries a whiff of desperation. A Tehran government long branded by U.S. officials as the globe’s leading exporter of terrorism may be cornering the market on haplessness.

Within Iran’s own borders, however, the story is different. Twice in the past two years Iranian intelligence has cracked espionage rings working with Israel’s Mossad, Western intelligence officials tell TIME. In both cases, the arrests were the furthest thing from secret: announced at a news conference, each was later followed up by televised confessions broadcast on Iranian state television in prime time. Given Iran’s history of trumped-up confessions, skepticism is more than justified. But the arrests appear to be solid. One intelligence official said the captured Iranians provided “support and logistics” to the Mossad operatives who carried out the assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists.

At least four scientists were killed on Tehran’s streets from 2010 to 2012, when, as TIME has reported, Israel ratcheted back on covert operations inside Iran. Officially, Israel has remained silent on the killings, though government officials will coyly say they welcome the deaths. The Jewish state maintains the same ambiguous posture on other “setbacks” to Iran’s nuclear program widely — and correctly, Western intelligence officials say — attributed to Mossad, from the Stuxnet computer virus, to mysterious explosions like the massive blast at a missile base, which destroyed ballistic missiles that could reach Israel.

The covert onslaught dovetails with Israel’s history of reaching “over the horizon” to disarm perceived threats at a distance. To keep advanced arms from reaching Hamas and Hizballah, Israel in the past year sent warplanes to bomb convoys and arms depots in Sudan and Syria, respectively, without apparent retribution. In the case of Iran, however, experts say the audacity of Israel’s covert campaign stirred Tehran to revive an espionage effort that lay largely fallow since 9/11. The Spy vs. Spy contest that ensued would prove woefully one-sided, even in the third-world countries where Iran chose to strike, hoping to avoid heightened security awareness in the developed world. In the end, its only success came inside Iran, where the secret police operate without inhibition.

The shadow war may have started on Jan. 15, 2007, the day Ardeshir Hosseinpour passed away. Hosseinpour was a specialist in electromagnetics at the Nuclear Technology Center in the city of Isfahan, Iran, but his death might have escaped notice had Iran’s government not kept it under wraps for almost a week, finally attributing it to fumes from a faulty heater. An online report by the American private intelligence firm Stratfor suggested another cause — radioactive poisoning — and hinted that Mossad’s Caesarea section was back in business. Caesarea, named for an Israeli beach town that dates back to Roman times, is the operations branch of Israel’s secret service, most notoriously responsible for the assassinations of some two dozen Palestinians (and an innocent waiter) after the 1972 Munich Olympics. Assassinations are carried out by a very small unit dubbed Kidon, the Hebrew word for “tip of the spear.” Kidon operates at a remove from the legions of Mossad employees working in less lethal fields.

It would have been a unit called Hatzomet, or “The Junction,” that recruited Majid Fashi, a handsome young Iranian who dropped out of high school to pursue a career in kickboxing. By the account he gave on Iranian state television early in 2011, Fashi presented himself at the Israeli consulate in Istanbul in 2007 and was vetted for a solid year before being shown any trust. Two years later, on Jan. 12, 2010, he would place a bomb on a motorbike parked on the sidewalk outside the Tehran home of Masoud Alimohammadi; the nuclear physicist was killed when it was detonated by remote control.

In the broadcast, Fashi accurately described the Mossad campus north of Tel Aviv. He said he had been given a laptop equipped with a second operating system and used it to communicate through online drop boxes. He was impressed by his handlers’ thoroughness. At one point Fashi described studying a scale model of Alimohammadi’s street. “It was an exact copy of the real one,” Fashi said. “The tree next it, the street curb, the bridge.” In a later broadcast, he was seated across from Alimohammadi’s widow, who glared at him as he bowed his head and wept. Mossad officials were “pissed off and shocked” seeing their agent on television, the intelligence official said.

Fashi was executed in May 2012. About the same time, Iran’s intelligence minister announced the arrest of 14 more Iranians, eight men and six women dubbed members of the “Terror Club” in the subsequent prime-time broadcast of that name. Filmed in shadow, and rich in atmospherics, the Aug. 5 program recreated Alimohammadi’s death and four subsequent attacks: they started with the Nov. 29, 2010 nearly simultaneous attempts on Majid Shariari and Fereydoun Abbasi, nuclear scientists driving to work when magnetic “sticky bombs” were attached to the side of their cars from passing motorcycles. Abbasi managed to escape before it detonated, saving his wife as well. Shariari was killed — a significant setback for the Iranian nuclear program where he was the top scientist, according to a Western intelligence official.

The confessed agents offered absorbing detail — they were aboard a Bajaj Pulsar, wearing helmets, when the magnet bomb stuck on the right front panel of Shariari’s car exploded. The riders scrambled into the “trail car” assigned to follow the target and disappeared into the traffic of the Imam Ali Autobahn. Already gone was the car assigned to cut off and slow the car carrying the scientist. They claimed to have rehearsed on a practice track inside Israel. None of the details could be confirmed, but an intelligence official acknowledged: “Another network was taken.”

The third scientist, Dariush Rezaeinejad was shot on July 23, 2011 after picking up his child at a day care; his wife described hearing shots whiz by as she chased the assailants. The most recent assassination was the Jan. 11, 2012 death of Mustafa Ahmadi-Roshan, an expert on uranium enrichment, also by a magnet bomb slapped on his car during his morning commute.

By then, Iran was trying to strike back. The task of avenging the scientists fell to the sprawling Quds Force’s own covert-operations division, known as Unit 400. It took a shotgun approach, targeting Israeli diplomatic missions in a variety of countries, mostly in the developing world where the global antiterrorism mesh is not so fine. Exposed in Baku, Tbilisi, Johannesburg, Mombasa and Bangkok, the failures mounted at a pace that was itself one of the problems. In the world of espionage, a quality covert operation can take years to pull together. Yet in the 15 months from May 2011 to July 2012, the Quds Force and Hizballah attempted 20 attacks, by the count of Matthew Levitt, a former State Department counterterrorism official. “Hizballah and the Quds Force traded speed for tradecraft and reaped what they sowed,” Levitt writes in a January report for the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “Quds Force planners were stretched thin by the rapid tempo of their new attack plan, and were forced to throw together random teams of operatives who had not trained together.”

The decline in quality was so striking it initially inspired disbelief. Recall the preposterous-sounding plot weaving together a former used-car salesman, Mexico’s Zetas drug gang and a bank transfer from a Revolutionary Guard account to assassinate Saudi Arabia’s ambassador — by bombing a Washington restaurant? A year on it looks like the new normal. In Bangkok last month, an Iranian agent entered a courtroom in a wheelchair, having accidentally blown his legs off while fleeing police. A January alert issued by Turkish intelligence was light on specifics but quite certain the Quds operatives would be staying in five-star hotels.

“There’s a number of reasons that Iranian intelligence has suffered,” says Meir Javedanfar, an Iranian-born analyst who lectures at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, Israel. “No. 1,” he says, “is the 2009 uprisings in Iran.” The street protests over a fraudulent election undermined the perceived legitimacy of the state among people who once would work for it, including in its secret services. “People less and less see it as a nationalist endeavor and more as a Khamenei-related project to strengthen himself,” Javedanfar says, referring to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei, who by some published accounts personally authorizes all overseas attacks.

Hard-liners further aggravated the situation by purging competent reformists from both the secret services and from Iran’s embassies — crucial to a force expected to work undetected abroad. “Basically the Quds Force doesn’t cooperate with the Foreign Ministry, and the Foreign Ministry isn’t what it used to be either,” says Javedanfar. Under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, 42% of ministry employees have only high school degrees. “The regime is a bigger threat to itself than Israel,” he says.

— With reporting by Aaron J. Klein / Tel Aviv

135 comments
Sri1
Sri1

Iran will eventually right its priorities.  The Persians need their reformers and to end the disillusionment with an autocratic, ultra-theocratic government. It is well known that the biggest threat for Israel has always been Iran - unlike the Arabs and Palestinians who can easily be divided and brutally subdued with overwhelming military force into meek submission.  The US has been Israel's biggest ally in crippling Iran financially and diplomatically.

Iran has lost its diplomatic, military and strategic edge over the past decade to the delight of the Arab world and US/Israel.  Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes - position themselves in their traditional and historical roles and dictate terms from position of power.

velgard333
velgard333

Iranian  must learn  from history .History shows.   this nation were loser in  any wars that had  with other  countries ,  They Lost  to:  Arab . Greek  Ganges. Russia ,Afghan.   & 8 years war with Iraq   with 60 million pupulation vs 14 million at end  with no   success , probably this is the  time  to lose to Israel.

ricardo_lion
ricardo_lion

 Iran`s issue with Israel is psychological / religious.  1,500 years after Judaism, 650 after Jesus, an Arab in Arabia invented a new religion where all the “prophets” are Jewish prophets, patriarchs, kings and rabbis.  All Jews, from a people today less than 0,2% of the world population.  Not Arabs like Mohammed himself, Inuits, Aztecs or Aborigenes, but all Jews.  The man was obsessed (obsession is a disease).  Later the Arabs converted the Persians by the sword, but whatever happened to Iran`s original religion?  Why don`t they go back to it?  The obsession with a little country that don`t even share a border would go away.  Today Iran is ruled by medieval Muslim clerics.  Let`s hope they will fall soon.

quikev08
quikev08

Well what happened?  

Mr Obama came, and went. He left Israel fortified and Iran duly warned. And the terroristic flavor of the week reverted east to North Korea.

In the meanwhile gallant little Israel has been distracted by Syria and the possibility of WMDs falling into the hands of Hezbolleh based in  Lebanon. While on the topic, Bulgaria has failed thus far in getting the 'Hez' blackballed  Iran-style - it says it will endeavor to persevere if Shin Bet can cook up some more cogent 'evidence'. Pinning the Bulgarian bus attack may be more easily done on Hezbolleh than on, as initially thought, the Iranians.

The evidence thus far incriminates an exploded bomber from gord knows where, and two unidentified passport-carriers - one Canadian, the other from Australia, who so far remain non-existent.  This sad incident could just as well have been an Israeli 'lover's spat' gone terribly wrong - but great for the cause.


arvay
arvay

The explanation is simple. 

From the start, Israel has been a state that uses assassinations, bombs, sabotage -- all the weapons of "terrorism" with aplomb and expertise. And they enjoy technical help from the US, as per the Stuxnet worm. The Iranians are fairly new at this.

quikev08
quikev08

Those Iranians surely don't act like they're a serious warfighters. Or a serious threat.

How can anybody take the 'Keystone Kops' antics seriously enough to be 'terrified of them?

If they ever got a nuclear device they'd  be a real danger to nobody but themselves.

babo1904
babo1904

After several months of crack Cloussou  investigation the iranians arrested the funny looking men wearing the skull caps.   

prabinguha
prabinguha

In New Delhi, capital of INDIA. my little one got hurt when some motorcycle rider blasted something.

I read in news paper some Iranian was attacking a small Israeii on the way to school.

If wish to fight , please do in Iran or Israel, not in Delhi or Nairobi.

lwsciencejunky
lwsciencejunky

This Reza Tavakolian has to be one of the silliest posters I've ever come across...Assuming "he" isn't some kind of primitive chatbot. This poor raveling needs some new material.

JohnWerneken
JohnWerneken

Well there is an old joke, Stalin is telling Beria how they can not fail to defeat Hitler, given the backstabbing cannibalism amongst the Nazi elite. Can Beria imagine how paralyzing such a state of affairs might be? Beria can imagine it, all too well...

RezaTavakolian
RezaTavakolian

It is 100% CERTAIN that 9-11 was a MOSSAD operation, period."
-- Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of Strategic Studies Institute, U.S. Army War College

"The collapse of Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. It is simply impossible to demolish a 47 story building over a coffee break.” – Lt. Col. Guy Razor, U.S. Air Force, (ret.) former Instructor, USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO Tactical Leadership Program"

Go to You-Tube and do a search of "Dancing Israelis."

9-11 was an inside job carried out by the Israeli Mossad and CIA with Bush's full knowledge. They had to get the useful idiots in America riled up to fight wars in the Middle-East for Israeli interests. J*ews have tremendous power with their ownership of the Federal Reserve and 96% of the mass media including book publishing, newspapers, and the movie and TV business.

"You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can't criticize Israel." Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache 2009

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . .. I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. 

RezaTavakolian
RezaTavakolian

The question is why IsraHell  and their Zionist Christian partners Neo- Con and the American Zionists lobby so angry about the truth commission established by Iran and the Argentinian  government. two weeks ago to investigate the 1994 bombing of the Jewish center in Argentina.   It is obvious, Zionists did it themselves they killed the Argentinian Jews in 1994 to isolate Iran in South America and stop the rapid expansion of the Iranian influence in south American nations. This was a test run of the 9-11 event in New york years later to spread Islamophobia in north America. And they already confessed to the killing the Iranian scientists. Zionists are the Satan on earth.

RezaTavakolian
RezaTavakolian

At the time of the so called Tunisia revolution the world had no idea that all these event in Tunisia and later in Libya and Yemen, and Syria and the rest of Arab and Islamic world is connected and orchestrated from out side of this small north African nation and is a part of much bigger Zionists plan to dominate the Middle East and Africa and eventually the world. ((NEW WORLD ORDER)). Zionists that already controlled the U.S. government and U.S. House and Senate and controlled most of the European government and their legislative powers eyed on the rest of the world starting with Middle east and Africa and specially oil and gas rich north Africa. Zionists used two main oil and gas rich dictator and their bank account to finance their master plan. Zionists Used Qatar and Saudi Arabian dictators money and their Sunni sect of interpretation of Islam. It is known in the west as Salafi/ Jihadi/ Wahhabi sect movement to dominate and control the Tunisian government. Qatari and Saudi then with the help of Turkish government trained over 20'000 Arab speaking solder of fortune (( TERRORISTS)) and invaded Libya. At that time Qatar transported around 18'000 ton of military gears to Benghazi in Libya. They quickly with the support of NATO and helping hand from U.S. military and C.I.A. arranged a U.N security council resolution and overrun the Qaddafi Libyan ruler's army and executed Qaddafi himself. Then they set up a Salafi Islamist government in Libya. Next nation on their list was Syria. They invaded Syria from Turkey and northern Lebanon with 20'000 now battle tested Salafi terrorists. And that was exactly two years ago. But at that time the Syrian government and the Syrian ally such as Iran, and Russian and Chines realized the Zionist plan and from the beginning helped the Syrian government and blocked the U.N security council resolution and consequently prevented the repeating of the Libyan scenario. Even though the Syrian infrastructure been destroyed by the Salafi terrorists but they failed to establish another Salafi government in Syria. On other front the Salafi were able to replace the government of Egypt with a Salafi Islamist government headed by Morse Salafi Brotherhood party. The transition in Egypt was relatively easy like in Tunisia because the previous regime in Tunisia and Egypt were western backed regime and Zionists replaced them rather quickly. At the moment the Salafi/ Jihadi/ Wahhabi are in control of the government of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt and trying hard to replace the Syrian government. If they succeed in Syria then they are going to try to replace the government of U.A.E. and then Jordan and Yemen and at the end even Saudi regime itself because Saudi are not Salafi but they are Wahhabi Sunni sect But do not forget the ultimate goal of all these transition planned by Zionists in the Middle East and north Africa is to divide the oil and gas rich nations to smaller and more manageable state. In 1982 the Hebrew language magazine called KIVUNIM ( DIRECTION) The official organ of the Zionist world organization, published an important article ,, THE STRATEGY FOR ISRAEL IN THE NINETEEN EIGHTIES,, The plan is based on the division of the whole area into small states and the dissolution of all the existing Arab state. The aim is to make an imperial Israel into a world power. NOW YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY.


 

JohnBrown
JohnBrown

Obama will find a way to tilt the balance against Israel, and back to Iran.  Just give him some time!

CoreyPearson
CoreyPearson

So right on! Good reporting. Iran's real threat is internal, for the power players there have been at each other's throats for decades. Remember the brutal elections? The demonstrators certainly included Western-style liberalizing elements, but they also included adherents of senior clerics who wanted to block Ahmadinejad's re-election. And while Ahmadinejad undoubtedly committed electoral fraud to bulk up his numbers, his ability to commit unlimited fraud was blocked, because very powerful people looking for a chance to bring him down were arrayed against him. And, they still do! I wrote an article on this and offer it free to TIME readers. Robert at Opens Source Intelligence (OSINT) News:

http://osintdaily.blogspot.com/2013/02/iranian-leaders-at-each-others-throats.html

mrxexon
mrxexon

It's not Iran's missteps that indicates it's lost the war. It's Israel's superior propaganda that penetrates point blank into our culture. 

Zionist agents control our media. Write our foreign policy. Select our presidential candidates. They own the government. They own the media. They own our monetary system. Smart people. But not indestructable.

Iran will someday right itself and throw off the Islamic yoke. Revolution isn't that far off. Israel will still have a zionist monkey on it's back for as long as it can convince the US Christian community that all those white people are biblical Jews and entitled to take land away from the real "colored" semites who are native to this part of the world.

If you're going to choose sides, you better choose carefully. Many things are not as they seem...



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PlumbLine
PlumbLine

Anti-semitism, and Anti-christian sentiment will increase more and more in these end times. Count on it.........We have something in common that the devil hates us both, and persecution has been fortold........

.......Revelation 12:3-5.......3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. 5 She bore a male Child (Jesus Christ) who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.

......Revelation 12:17........17 And the dragon (Satan) was angry at the woman (Israel) and declared war against the rest of her children—all who keep God’s commandments and maintain their testimony for Jesus.

lwsciencejunky
lwsciencejunky

The obvious reason for the profound inferiority and failures Iranian intel. operations outside of Iran is that, inside Iran, Iranian spooks do not have to concern themselves with the civil rights of Iranian citizens, and due process is a cynical sham that in reality, does not exist. In fact, Iranian operatives are encouraged to brutalize, torture, and terrify Iranian citizens routinely. It isn't surprising that Iranian "intelligence" has been unable to develop the skills, let alone the finesse required to successfully conduct operations outside Iran. The primitive thuggery practiced in Iran by Iranian "intelligence" and inflicted upon Iranians is incredibly easy. However, the work of skilled international espionage is incredibly difficult. Simply put, Iranian "intelligence" has comparatively little international experience.

ameer.amirian
ameer.amirian

Every  Iranian have only one propose if living that is to see israel eliminated from face of the earth.

They are so determined that willing to tolurate any kind of economic and physical hardships to reach that goal.

It appears they will reach that goal sooner or later 

ricardo_lion
ricardo_lion

@arvay   Israel is the Jewish (the religion of Jesus), democratic (rights for all) and civilized (no civil war, hanging of gays, women stoning, "honour" killing of girls, etc.) in the region (0,0000..1% of the ME, 20% of Palestine).

jim.satterfield
jim.satterfield

@quikev08 The incompetence is one of the things to fear. I doubt that the Iranians could keep adequate control on their fissile material to keep it in the country and out of hands that could use it for poisonings and dirty bombs.

quikev08
quikev08

@babo1904 Are there any of those left in Iran? Ah yes the ones who 'can't get out'. 

 They're 'entertained', daily, by the ones who did - with techno music and 'news' broadcasts from Tel Aviv, in farsi.


And the mullahs don't even stop them from tuning in.

ricardo_lion
ricardo_lion

@RezaTavakolianIsrael is the Jewish (the religion of Jesus), democratic (rights for all) and civilized (no civil war, hanging of gays, women stoning, "honour" killing of girls, etc.) in the region (0,0000..1% of the ME, 20% of Palestine).



lwsciencejunky
lwsciencejunky

@RezaTavakolian  

You are one of the silliest posters I've ever come across. Have you at least considered finding some new material? With some updated material, you'd still be silly, but at least you wouldn't be as boring...maybe.

However, I find you (and posters like you) rather comforting. Posts like yours indicate that Iranian pro-regime  propagandists are just as lame as Iranian "intelligence".

You are intellectually crippled by the cult-like "group-think"  that is so typical of  the victims of both fascist (Iran's rulers) regimes and religious extremists (also Iran's rulers) for the same reason Iranian spooks are so inept outside of Iran. You and Iranian "intelligence" are effective only with terrorized, suppressed and subjugated Iranians inside Iran. Iranian intelligence can't cope with the world outside Iran; outside of Iran, you are just as sadly incapable of  presenting any kind of interesting or remotely convincing post.

What a good little boy you are, ranting your little heart out, obediently regurgitating the regime party line that, to the vast majority of the international community, sounds...very silly.

ocschwar1
ocschwar1

@RezaTavakolian The war isn't faring well in the website trolling front lines either. Sucks to be you.

ricardo_lion
ricardo_lion

@RezaTavakolian   1,500 years after Judaism, 650 after Jesus, an Arab in Arabia invented a new religion where all the "prophets" are Jews (today less than 0,2% of the world population).  Not Arabs like himself, Inuits, Aztecs or Aborigenes, for example, but all Jews.  The man was obsessed.  Later the Arabs converted the Persians by the sword, but whatever happened to Iran`s original religion?  Why don`t you return to it?  The obsession with Jews and their country (much smaller and far away from Iran) would go away.

ricardo_lion
ricardo_lion

@RezaTavakolian 1,500 years after Judaism, 650 after Jesus, an Arab in Arabia invented a new religion where all the "prophets" are Jews (today less than 0,2% of the world population).  Not Arabs like himself, Inuits, Aztecs or Aborigenes, for example, but all Jews.  The man was obsessed.  Later the Arabs converted the Persians by the sword, but whatever happened to Iran`s original religion?  Why don`t you return to it?  The obsession with Jews and their country (much smaller and far away from Iran) would go away.


EdwardParsons
EdwardParsons

If what you say is true Reza, you better surrender and try and find a island to hide on because what you are saying is the Israeli people can make you guys dance like a puppet show. If they have so much control over you its about time to give it up, as you have become a great big modern Truman show. And if they think so little of you that they even print it in magazines for everyone to see. They may get around to house training you because if what you say is true what hope do you really have.

ricardo_lion
ricardo_lion

@mrxexon   The "real coloured semites", like the fair skinned, blue eyed Muslim Arab bloody dictator of Syria, for example?

SassanK.Darian
SassanK.Darian

@mrxexon Of course. The big bad Jews are behind everything. Explicit anti-Semitism and rabid paranoia reeks from your very first line. 

mrxexon
mrxexon

@PlumbLine 

 Oh, good gravy, man! Is this how you spend your day? 

 You're a perfect reason why Israel has enjoyed the layers of US protection it has. You're spiritually blind as a bat and gullible to boot. Perfect stooge. You vote accordingly. All the while, zionist Israel grows in power. Breast fed from over 60 years of US aid, this hellchild is almost ready to make it's move. 

In the aftermath of what is to come, should it come as any surprise that the world will come looking for those who have protected it? 

Wouldn't want to be you.

SassanK.Darian
SassanK.Darian

@PlumbLine Keep your religious superstitions to yourself. As I have said, excessive superstitions are the root of this problem. Keep your delusions and entertain yourself. Avoid the innocent children who have yet to be brainwashed by your lunacy. 

SassanK.Darian
SassanK.Darian

@ameer.amirian Thank you Mr. Hizbolli kos kesh jendeh. It is important for everyone to read this Islamic Republic Cyber Army thug sentiments to understand the mentality of the Basiji, Hizbolli, and other regime hooligans and thugs to understand the evil ideology of such scum. These are the types of thugs that oppress and terrorize the Iranian people. Your end will come soon my friend. Maybe you have a place to run to in Lebanon? Syria will soon be free of Assad and your options will be limited. Hopefully even Lebanon will get rid of Hizbollah's occupation infesting the great Lebanese people. Disgusting Hizbolli.

arvay
arvay

@ricardo_lion @arvay  

Even if true -- irellevant.

Israel is a western outpost inserted into a region that rejects it. As such, it's a constant problem for the US. It's simply a mistake. This would be true if its population were all Christian, or Buddhist.

quikev08
quikev08

@jim.satterfield @quikev08  

Jim, Don't you think such could be said of many 'nuclear' nations in the world to-day?  Given the record of nuclear 'accidents' 0r even 'on purposes'  - involving weapons and the more 'useful' stuff  - such a nuclear mishap could happen to anybody.

Singling out Iran as being, somehow, especially incompetent or unworthy  is belied by the facts on the ground. She has, almost singularly, adhered to the commitment made to her  NNPT undertakings. There are far less trustworthy people holding the atom.


mrxexon
mrxexon

@ricardo_lion @mrxexon 

 There are some white semites. But the European zionists who are trying to pass themselves off as biblical Jews in Israel, aren't them... 

mrxexon
mrxexon

@SassanK.Darian@mrxexon

Take off, hasbara.

 You gonna play catch with me, you should put your cup on now. 

Point 1, zionists, the ones I speak of, are nothing but white supremacists hiding behind a Jewish persona. They're spiritually hollow inside. Too full of atheistic nationalism to be a REAL Jew. They collaborated with the nazis in WWII. They went on to found modern Israel as a ZIONIST state.

 Point 2, most modern Jews are not semites. Semites are related to Arabs and other people of color. Not white converts from Europe and Russia. So throw your anti-semite label towards somebody else. I happen to like semites. I care not for the fakes ones.

 And point 3, everybody should read the hasbara handbook to deal with your kind. Apologists for the racist, apartheid country of Israel. http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf

arvay
arvay

@ricardo_lion@arvay 

None of this matters.

Israel is a western outpost inserted into a region that rejects it. As such, it's a constant problem for the US. It's simply a mistake. This would be true if its population were all Christian, or Buddhist.

All these endless conversations about who was there first are off the main point, which is: what's in the interest of the US? Lots of people, Kurds, Roma, Parsees -- etc. etc. have long stories to tell. None of which should be the basis of American foreign policy.


ricardo_lion
ricardo_lion

@arvay @ricardo_lion   The original inhabitants of Palestine are the Jews.  Arabs, like those kicked out of Iberia after nearly 800 years of occupation, are invaders from Arabia and their religion was invented 1,500 years after Judaism, 650 after Jesus out of the obsession of one Arab with Jews (today less than 0,2% of the world population).  All "prophets" in the Koran are Jews.  Obsession.

jim.satterfield
jim.satterfield

@quikev08 @jim.satterfield No, the same could not be said of many nuclear nations in the world. I believe it could rightfully be said of Pakistan or the USSR, but the types of accidents that have happened in the U.S. are far from someone getting their hands on useful amounts of fissile materials. In fact in both Pakistan and Iran I would consider the risk of someone in the name of a twisted view of Islam letting lunatics like those responsible for 9/11 get their hands on radioactive materials to be the greatest threat. Iran is a theocracy. I do not trust theocracies, whatever faith they might be based on.

mrxexon
mrxexon

@ricardo_lion @mrxexon 

 Ordinarily, neither am I.

However, zionism is a white supremacist movement hiding behind a protective Jewish identity.They're very interested in skin color. When you examine all the higher ups in the zionists power structure, you don't see much of anybody but white people.

 They will use Jews of color to further their own agenda. They sold European Jews out to the nazis in WWII. So they don't give a damn about Jews, just their agenda. Which among other things is purging Israel to it can become a "pure" homeland. This  will eventually include Christians.

 Lieberman made it quite clear that even non zionists Jews would not be welcome there either.

 These are not nice people, and we need to stop pretending that the Israeli government is about freedom and justice.

Fed_Up1
Fed_Up1

@mrxexon  Thanks for exposing yourself as not just a hate-filled lunatic, but a particularly stupid one.

Tochorian
Tochorian

@SassanK.Darian @Tochorian @ameer.amirian It's funny how I never see these kinds of extremist comments from "Hizbollis" in online forums, and now suddenly, one shows up, to support your arguments. It just seems like an extreme coincidence.