The Amanda Knox Haters Society: How They Learned to Hate Me Too

Viewpoint: The author of a book on the young American accused of murder in Perugia recalls her adventures with the “guilters”

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When Italy‘s highest court reversed the acquittal of Amanda Knox and ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito this week,  a small cottage industry on the internet began grinding back into high gear. Actually it has never had a down day: the Knox-hating websites have been passing along innuendo and cherry-picked factoids for six years now.

If you have taken a dive down into the Amanda Knox rabbit hole, you will discover a couple of persistent acronyms. The first is PMF. That would be the Perugia Murder File, operated by a Seattle housewife and former French translator who is dedicated to the guilt of Amanda Knox. The other acronym you will encounter is TJMK, which stands for “True Justice For Meredith Kercher”—the young British woman murdered in this case–and is run by a New Jersey-based Englishman who claims that at one time he consulted at the United Nations.

(MORE: Amanda Knox’s Ex-Boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito Publishes Tell-All)

These sites host extremely active avatars, many proclaiming to be lawyers, forensic experts, criminologists, but who never reveal their true identities. Researching my 2011 book on the Knox case The Fatal Gift of Beauty, I met both moderators behind the acronymic websites. In 2009, I sat down with TJMK founder Peter Quennell, who has always claimed he started the site to make sure that no one forgot the victim. A stout, ruddy Englishman living in New Jersey, he had been holding out the carrot of introducing me to the elusive Kercher family. He seemed vastly knowledgeable and connected. At the time, I also believed that Amanda Knox could be, indeed, a Charles Manson behind a pretty face.

After a month in Italy doing reporting, however, I realized that some of the “facts” on Quennell’s  website didn’t seem to be in the police record in Italy. I emailed him to ask where he had found out that Knox and Sollecito  met police standing outside the murder house with a mop and bucket in hand. That damning incident  was nowhere in the record, not even the prosecutor would confirm it, nor had Italy’s Polizia Scientifica ever tested such items, which would surely have offered up some useful DNA evidence, had they been used to clean blood.

Quennell then accused me by email of being on the Knox family payroll, informed me that his sources in Perugia had seen me consorting with Amanda’s mother (I had in fact met with her once, in a public place, by then) and eventually started writing about how he was going to “train his scope” on my apartment in Manhattan, and closing emails with “how are the kiddies?”

As for PMF, I met with its moderator, Peggy Ganong, in Seattle in 2010, after Knox’s  conviction. She told me she first thought Amanda Knox “looked like a killer”  after seeing her picture online. Her site has posted translations of the court proceedings but also provides a forum for anonymous but self-described experts who suggest that men who believe Amanda Knox is innocent are driven by lust for her. They also post bilious captions beneath pictures of the Knox family.

(MORE: Amanda Knox Lands a $4 Million Book Deal)

There are other players, more diffident, in the Amanda Knox hating universe. One called herself Miss Represented, on a site by that name which dispensed what professed to be expertise in criminal psychology, dedicated to proving Amanda Knox’s psychopathy. The operator of the site turned out to be a young social media expert in Bath, working at a UK social media company, horrified that I had emailed her at work. In a pleading email, she begged me not to publish her real name, which I will not do, and wrote: “Miss Represented was only ever supposed to be a place for my own reflections, some of them I still stand by, some of them I’ve rethought as I’ve gotten a little older and bit more mature.”

I went to Italy thinking I was writing a book about an American girl psycho. After a month in Perugia, I realized the case was shaky, and after a year there, I knew it was nonexistent. But I did enough research on Amanda Knox to conclude that the person she was in 2007 was not perfect, and probably not even very nice. In the sexist media world we inhabit, though, a pretty girl wrongly accused of a heinous crime can’t be just a jerk, she’s got to be a murderess or, in the superstitious alleys of Perugia,  a witch.

We don’t know what the Italian judges were thinking when they threw out Knox and Sollecito’s acquittal this week—and we won’t know until they release their report 90 days from now. My best analysis of their motivation is that they are simply letting the slow wheels of Italian justice turn by allowing a panel of judges in Florence to double-check the ruling of the appellate court in Perugia that acquitted the two students in October 2011. Given the notoriety of the case, and the fact that so many Italians still believe the original prosecutor’s theory that Kercher died in a cultish sex-game gone wrong, the high court may merely be applying an extra layer of judicial safeguard.

In my opinion, the new panel will agree with the last one that the case against the students is fatally flawed. I could, of course be wrong. In the eyes of the Knox-haters, I will always be wrong. But another shoe is also about to drop: Harper Collins plans to bring out Amanda Knox’s own book next month. For the company, which paid a reported $4 million for the memoir, the timing cannot be more perfect.

MORE: Amanda Knox Still ‘Loves’ Italy, May Return for Parents’ Slander Trial

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Ghislane100
Ghislane100

As I predicted months ago, Sollecito has stated that Knox left his apartment for several hours the nights poor Meredith was murdered, and when she came back she was 'agitated'!  He has a list of questions for Knox, including why she showered in a room that had clear evidence of blood in it, and why was she gone for so long!  


Sollecito is not stupid.  He is cutting ties with Knox to reduce his sentence, and he will eventually accuse her of murdering poor Meredith.  His accusations above are the first of many, and they are damaging enough!


For all those Knox supporters who have denied for years that Sollecito withdrew Knox's alibi, watch and weep!  You have got nowhere to hide and it will be impossible for you lot to squirm out of this!  

michellesings1
michellesings1

Isn't it amazing how there are 3 cult-like hate sites all aimed at Amanda only?  They're supposed to be dedicated to victim Meredith Kercher but instead they'd  just rather spend their time trying to figure out new ways/angles on how to prove Amanda and Raffaele's guilt.

It's not provable cause they weren't THERE at the crime scene and nothing proves them there.

It's funny watching them scramble. It's pathetic what they do, though.

I am beyond grossed out and shocked by the amount of pure hate, just for the sake of something to hate. It's like it's a video game to them, a coping mechanism. 

They stalk any and everyone who speaks out in favor of the innocence of Amanda and Raffaele. They spend more time trying to shoot the messengers than ANY single thing they do in the name of Meredith. They have absolutely interfered with the Process (with Justice) That alone says it all. And what's sad is that a bunch of seriously scary nutters are standing up for Meredith Kercher. We are hated by the family because we are associated with Amanda. Showing them sympathy is like sticking a stick in a hornet's nest, seriously. 

These Cyber Nutters should be locked up in jail. Better yet, they should never be allowed a smart phone or computer ever again. In the end, truth will win and they'll be stuck with their sorry lives to find the next victim to hate on. 

EmmaD'young
EmmaD'young

Yes, it's shocking and ugly, all the venom. 


It's not even about rage over Meredith. 

If it were anger over Meredith's sexual assault and murder I'd expect equal or greater howls over Rudy Guede who certainly played a significant part according to the evidence.

No one is offering to kill Rudy themselves as I have seen people offering to do to Amanda in the comment sections in articles like these.

The anti Amanda Knox community seems largely unmoved that Rudy will be released on parole soon. This convicted murderer will serve less than 10 years - and he sexually assaulted Meredith too - and possibly masturbated over her corpse, semen was found on a pillow in the room. 


In my opinion, Rudy is worthy of hate. He is not fit for society.


Guilters just seem focused on making sure Amanda 'rots' and if Raffaele won't help by providing new verbal evidence that damns her then he can 'rot' too. 

Rudy can go free ASAP - he's not fun to victimise. 


It's more deliciously fun and supremely satisfying to victimise the pretty girl with the world at her feet. 


Because they HATE that beautiful young white girl who represents the popular girl they hated in school. Perhaps the girl who rejected them. The girl with limitless opportunities. The girl with the upstanding and loving boyfriend, who effortlessly attracts desirable partners. The girl who gets to travel, finds work easily, who has both the money and free time to study language and creative writing in a foreign country. 


The girl who gets to have all the things YOU wanted but never got. That BITCH! - Right? But, now you've got her right where you want her, and she's gonna PAY - right? Burn that witch!!


Bitter, twisted, utterly consumed with insane jealousy, pretending to care about Meredith to hide their real motives. 


I see you. 


You don't fool me. 



grevyturty
grevyturty

Horribly written, dishonest article (much like the book she penned). She supports a murderer and then plays the victim. Disgraceful.

MajorMcCoy
MajorMcCoy

Ghislane100 is nothing but a mother-f***king idiot.  Obviously, his a$$ is where is mouth is, since every time he opens it, sh*t spews forth.  You should do the world a favor and die, since you're a poor excuse for a member of the human race, and you have absolutely 0 redeeming qualities.


There's a special place in hell reserved for spineless, brainless, d*ckless cowards like yourself.

NWwood
NWwood

Note:  “jls1950” is Joe Starr, a Seattle resident who was identified as being Chris Mellas’s best friend, and whose syntax, repeated libels and foul language for the last six years in various forums marks him as being one single awful person, regardless of how many ID’s he appropriates.

Agnetha
Agnetha

I think the hate is about all the media attention on this Amanda and her boyfriend. Also because the murder of Meredith sickened all to the stomach,and people dont have any answers,and may never have a full explanation.you must admit,by some peoples standards,that the murder was vile.I was not there,so I have no idea who commited the crime and for what reason.I take a look yearly to see if any information has been found,this case seemed to have taken on mammoth proportions,unfortunately a lot of haters believe that the couple where guilty,time will hopefully tell,for all concerned.Its Meredith and her family which needs the truth,not us really. The internet is a useful tool,it can also cause problems,such as this!!!!

doramaar
doramaar

In 2010 I had never heard of Amanda Knox or Raphael Sollecito or the whole trial. I happened to be watching Oprah one day and saw the parents on tv. Outraged after watching this that two innocent "kids" would go to jail, I went to the internet and read up on the trial. Within 15 minutes, it was obvious that the parents had left out a huge amount of evidence and downplayed a number of pieces of other evidence (and I got my evidence from good sources like Newsweek). I concluded (I mean, whoa, it doesn't take a rocket scientist) those two are guilty. They deserve to be in jail. I wonder why America is so upset about the conviction of two obvious murderers. Is it their social class, their looks? Two nice, well educated middle class white kids, so good looking could never have committed this crime! I think it's a huge threat to American middle class identity, not to mention keeping the tabloids going non stop. Read the Massei report. It's a masterpiece of putting all the evidence together. No question in my mind, they did it. Hello, if there was a dead body found in your home, don't you think the police would be investigating and questioning you? They questioned several people. every bit as they questioned Knox and Sollecito. Their alibis and responses held up. This was a university town with lots of young students. The police aggressively pursued this crime, questioning all the people who knew Meredith Kercher. There's just so much evidence against these two it's unbelievable. I truly, sincerely hope, for the sake of the Kercher family and justice, the heinous crime they committed and for which they were found guilty, will be upheld in the new appeal. Thank goodness for their Supreme Court! May they serve their time.

FozzyBear
FozzyBear

@jls1950 Thank you for one of the few sane posts in a very long time.  This comments thread has been hijacked by some of the most deranged trolls to be found anywhere on the internet.  They are a testament to everything that Nina Burleigh has written.  How they think their behaviour is supposed to respect the memory of Meredith or advance any kind of argument or reasoned debate is a mystery.  Before the days of 'care in the community' they would have been sectioned and kept well away from the rest of us.  

Scrambler63
Scrambler63

Just the notion of "Meredith Haters" or "Amanda Haters" is incredible asinine.  These misleading, spurious, and often nonsensical rants in posts like some of the ones below have cause more injustice to Meredith Kercher and pain for her family than anyone not in the Italian Justice system or named Rudy Guede.

Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@michellesings1  As I predicted months ago, Sollecito has taken a huge step towards accusing Knox of murder!  He has accused her of leaving his apartment for hours on the night of the murder and of coming back 'agitated'!  Get ready to squirm, Moore!  Your lies are coming to the surface.

NWwood
NWwood

Hmmm, I don't see them as inventing any "new ways", I see them as applying all of the old "tried and true" ways.

As an example: There is a term in syllogistic logic called a hypothetical syllogism; where if A=B and B=C, then A=C.

You see, nobody needs to have "been there" to apply the math.

Your ad hominems and the innumerous other invectives by "friends", as you so basely exemplify, do not make for intelligent, reasoned, or logical arguement.  Such ad hominems actually reduce any point trying to be made by you, or others, into drivel.

I find it both ironic and disingenious that a person complaining about "haters" can be so hateful.

NWwood
NWwood

Rudy is an idiot and murderer, same as the other two.

You can't see past the end of your nose.

lgflick
lgflick

@grevyturty Ha.  Don't act like a stereotypical 'guilter' or anything.  All of you can go on for hundreds of pages about Knox's behavior, and her 'confession', and whether the 'break-in' was real or staged.  But you can never satisfactorily answer the most basic questions. 

1. What was Knox's motive?

2. Why no DNA from Knox or Sollecito in the victim's bedroom?

3. Why no credible link between the couple and Guede?

4. Why wasn't she on the first plane home after the murder?

sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@FozzyBear @jls1950 Another idiot that has run off with his tail between his legs !

No substance, no clear points regarding the Knox case and no intelligence!!

Will he/she ever come back with an intelligent answer?! I doubt so, he/she is too busy licking JLS1050's arse :(

I think they are the same person, using so called 'proxy' server's, sitting in their mouldy, damp bunker,  leering over pictures of girls way too young to be legal, and 'investigating' conspiracy theories.  

Again, JLS1950, where is your 'evidence'?! Oh, I forgot, there is none, because you write 100 % BS, and have been doing the same for the last 4 - 6 years!

I do not know how you have the nerve to keep posting accusations against people for the last 6 years !!

The funny thing is that these accusations are thrown at various people from multiple discussion forums, and they are all the same accusations !! Anyone who does not believe in your warped views are obviously an "Italian man who works for the secret services or the government".

I know you must (hopefully!!) realise that your foreign policies are sneered at by the rest of the world, but please prove to us that most Americans are not like you :(

You believe the world is flat and never visit a foreign country.

You are a small minded, ignorant old man !

Go hide in your bunker, for the rest of the world is seeking YOU ';)

Ta Ra :)


Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@FozzyBear @jls1950 You post two identical comments in total on this board, and manage to make no point of any worth whatsoever.  How typical!

Lets face it, Knox groupies like yourself are ten a penny!  You have so little knowledge of the case your only available response is to hurl personal insult and to pretend you give a flying F about poor Meredith.

It is very clear that you are a fan of Knox the Murderer.  As such, perhaps you would like to tell us all why it is that Meredith would care a jot for your so called 'respect'.  I can tell you right now, she would tell you where to shove it!  Try to remember that she was in fact there at the time of the murder, and, like her family, she knows full well who murdered her, you ignoramus.  John Kercher is completely correct to lay the blame at Knox's feet, after all, he has been privy to all of the facts and sat in court through a good majority of the trial.

As far as those who know Knox is guilty being 'trolls', try and grow up.  Do you have any idea how pathetic you sound? Perhaps you should look the word 'troll' up in a dictionary.  You will find it applies more commonly to Knox groupies like yourself; a group of low IQ morons intent on spreading filth and lies, particularly about the family of a murdered girl.  Many Knox groupies are disgustingly vile and the comments they make, insane.  You carry on posting and we will see if you belong in this category.  You are already well on your way.

jls1950 has many idiotic beliefs, one of which is that Meredith was too dark skinned to be the real intended victim.  He believes Knox was the real target!  This is not only foul, it is insane.  It sums you up perfectly that you wish to fawn at the feet of this nutter.

As far as the 'kept well away from the rest of us' is concerned, rest assured, my lifestyle is such that I run absolutely no risk of ever bumping into someone like you.  You carry on spewing rot from your windowless basement bedsit Minimum Wage Fozzy!  I expect my pool cleaners salary exceeds yours.  By the way, it is in fact you who needs help.  It is not normal to support a murdering tramp and you are therefore abnormal.  No doubt you have a predilection to lean this way, after all, you are thick, you have no morals and you have obviously been bought up very badly by equally thick and ineffective parents.

Good luck with that! :)

sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@FozzyBear @jls1950 So Fozzy, you believe the comments on here, by people who want true justice for Meredith and  her family, are worse than numerous Knox supporters wanting to desecrate the grave of a young murdered girl :( 

Come off it - how utterly sick is that, yet you support these nut jobs, maybe you are even one of them!!

People who do not believe in Knox's innocence have been labelled ' haters ' or ' guliter's ' by people like you, trying to effect a negative image of them purely because they do not follow your warped views !!

It does not make people 'trolls', as is the only comeback that nut jobs can come up with. People respond like for like, you can and never will be able to change this. Do you want to live in a world, where people (especially JLS1950) all have to follow one opinion?!

I have asked JLS1950 on various boards to show or supply some proof of the accusations he throws at one poster (although he in his demented mind thinks that said person is more than just one or two!). Of course, he cannot supply any 'detective work' or 'evidence' because he has none. 

If he were a true follower of Knox's, other than being a senile stalker,  I would NOT want him anywhere  near the case. He is doing nothing to help their 'cause', in fact if he is an average supporter, people will see him, supporters and Knox for what they really are, mindless physco idiots who fancy young girls and live in a world surrounded by 'conspiracy' theories.

I note that across various discussion forums going back 4 to 5 years old, he is still spouting the same CR+P. Various people have noted he is obsessed with Knox and 'conspiracy' theories and have approached him about this. Again he cannot supply any proof to the various accusations he makes. This is not new to him, it has been going on for years, he has pointed the finger at many people over the years with exactly the same accusations.  

Funny that you believe him - you either are him or someone with no sound judgement abilities, which is not unusual in Knox believers. 

Get back into your straight jacket and drag the demented idiot  JLS1950 with you.

By saying 'the rest of us' I will presume that was the last time you were in a mental institute. 

Anyone who follows a moron who believes that an assault victim is a 'little tramp' and a 'vile creature' needs mental help.

You are but a bit of something on the bottom of my shoes, so run along little man :)

Ta Ra :)




Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@Scrambler63 The wild, raunchy past of Foxy Knoxy | Mail Online

Read the above, loser.  It proves the real Knox.

You support the murderer of the Kercher's daughter so drop the pretence you speak for them, imbecile.  No one other than a sub human does this.

Knox is guilty.  Knox is about to be sentenced to a life term.  Knox's book sales are appalling, even with you groupies doing your utmost. I suppose you just don't have the finances to do much. Gone is the swanky PR machine to warp and lie. Now it will be just the bankrupt Knox's!  How will they fend off the multitude of civil and criminal suits hurtling their way?  They won't!  They will be living in a car soon.  It could not happen to a more deserving family!

It will be enormous fun watching them get what they so richly deserve!

DippyBlue
DippyBlue

@Ghislane100 @michellesings1Okay, calm down Sherlock! Rafaelle was just restating the events of the MORNING Meredith's body was discovered. His interview stated nothing new. Nothing to see here, move along...

NWwood
NWwood

1. What was Knox's motive?

Whatever it may be, it's not a good one.

2. Why no DNA from Knox or Sollecito in the victim's bedroom?

There is, quit being an ignorant denier.

3. Why no credible link between the couple and Guede?

There is a very credible link, he was the local drug dealer (they weren't growing it themselves). 

4. Why wasn't she on the first plane home after the murder?

Because she wanted to hang around and "be helpful" and keep up appearances-- she understood that an innocent person would/should have no need or reason to run.   Had she jumped on a plane, she knew the focus would have turned on her like Sauron for the Ring.  She was just lucky that first interview was as a witness and there were no recordings made, yet she and Sollecito still managed to nearly hang themselves anyways.

FozzyBear
FozzyBear

You just made my point again guys!  Thanks for that.  Keep taking the tablets!

Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@sidepartinmartin @FozzyBear @jls1950 Fozzy The Loser seems to be a Manchester United fan!  He is absolutely irrelevant, as to be expected, and lives in Manchester!  That sums him up a treat.  No money, no prospects and no future, in other words, the kind of people we use for cleaning jobs!

No wonder it supports murderers in it's spare time, it no doubt has anger issues considering it is on the lowest rung possible in life.  It really could not happen to a more deserving maggot.

MichelleCelestialEasterlyMoore
MichelleCelestialEasterlyMoore

@Ghislane100 @Scrambler63 I just think it's funny that you  actually believe there is some well organized efficient PR Machine that has lied to the public and that we're all a part of them and that we're being paid. Because of you, however, the family of the murdered victim believe's a lie. And that part is not funny. People like you are responsible for their pain. You don't know anything at all about their supposed "PR" crap. Sick freaks.

Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@DippyBlue @Ghislane100 @michellesings1  Irrelevant!  He will spille his guts once the sentences are ratified and leave you lot squirming in a puddle of your own filth.  It does not pay to avidly support sadistic murderers like Knox.


Drop the pretence that a bottom-runger like yourself gets to tell me what to do.  I pay imbeciles like you to do those chores that I don't fancy doing.

sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@FozzyBear Shame you cant' even afford said tablets, moron :)

Go back to begging outside some seedy train station with your mutt in Manchester lowlife!

Now try to make a comment with some substance to this thread as to why you believe slug Knox and her animal porn loving ex lay are innocent. I know this is hard for you, but go on, give it a really good try. The rest of the audience of this discussion board will give you a little bit of slack :)

Cheers lowlife :)

Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@FozzyBear Poor Fozzy! Your IQ is so low that my comment is beyond your capabilities.

I will spell it out for you, Mr Remedial: YOU MADE NO POINT!

Your irrelevant comment is worthless.  You clearly know nothing about this case and you therefore fail to make a single point.  You are what is commonly known as an 'armchair pundit' and even within that category you are a failure.

You carry on embarrassing yourself.  You are no different from all of the other Knox groupies; poorly educated, the result of bad parenting and dependent on lies.

Knox is about to face a new trial, the outcome of which will see her locked up for life.  Her animal porn loving ex will spill his guts and all of you groupies will then have a very difficult time trying to excuse the fact that you have been supporting a murderer for years.  You especially, of course, because you are especially thick in a group known for being imbeciles.

Before she is banged up, Know will firstly face financial ruin and the knowledge that she bought about the financial ruination of her disgusting parents, both of whom know full well that she is a murderer, and both of them fully deserving of what is coming their way. 

In addition to the fact that her book is one huge flop, with humiliatingly low book sales, now to be remaindered to sales bins, Knox is also facing huge defence fees for the new trial.  She is also being sued left, right and centre both civilly and criminally, for the huge pack of filthy lies she has spewed in her book.

Knox is going to be in debt to the tune of millions.

She will rot away in her cell whilst her parents rot away in the car they now call home.

In the meantime, I will think of her occasionally in full contentment that she got her just desserts, and that you miserable lot with your grotty little lives, were provenly 100% wrong.

Of course, I am used to being right, and my life is indescribably superior to yours, so one could say that it is unfair to gloat.  I would rightly counterbalance this with the fact that sub-human scum like yourself is too thick to recognise insult in the first place.

:)


FozzyBear
FozzyBear

@jls1950 @jls1950 Thank you for one of the few sane posts in a very long time.  This comments thread has been hijacked by some of the most deranged trolls to be found anywhere on the internet.  They are a testament to everything that Nina Burleigh has written.  How they think their behaviour is supposed to respect the memory of Meredith or advance any kind of argument or reasoned debate is a mystery.  Before the days of 'care in the community' they would have been sectioned and kept well away from the rest of us. 

Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@sidepartinmartin @Ghislane100 @jls1950 @Scrambler63 jls1950 also likes spreading his view that the intended victim was Knox!  He pretends to be a born again evangelist whilst slandering in the very worst way possible an innocent murdered girl.  According to the vile SHI* Meredith was nor good looking enough, or white enough, to be the intended victim!  Knox was obviously much more worthy of being murdered, considering she is such a catch!  What BULLSHI*!

I hope the disgusting piece of filth rots.

sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@Ghislane100 @sidepartinmartin @jls1950 @Scrambler63 

BTW JLS1950, I notice you have posted on another site that you have personal knowledge of a 'pretty 15 year old girl' being murdered.  What an odd way of describing the sad demise of a young girl who is probably the age (if not younger) of any grandchildren you may have :( The main point that you stated was that she was 'pretty' :(

On the same site you have done nothing but insult the Kerchers and have actively suggested that Knox 'should go for all (money wise) that she can' :(

You are one sick human being with no morals.

Another poster on the said forum lives in Talladega - please do not tell me that this is as far as your 'detective investigations' go, in relating two posters together who both blatantly tell people where they live.

You are an absolute joke of an old man, totally ignorant, but believes his own conspiracy lies, and an utter moron. You are a joke of a person who is humiliating himself with every further rant you make !!

Carry on posting from your damp mouldy basement and leering over children!

Also, when are you going to supply your 'evidence' ?! 

I know I have asked this numerous times, but your silence speaks volumes about you. 

Go back to hiding behind a keyboard, loser.



Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@sidepartinmartin @Ghislane100 @jls1950 @Scrambler63 We will soon have good cause for a slap up meal care of Four Seasons, Paris, or if we fancy a change, we can always pop to Le Maurice!  Justice for poor Meredith is good cause for celebration.

Poor JLS!  He is clearly a demented and delusional pervert.  Where on Earth does he get his ridiculous ideas from?  Perhaps he is the result of an inferior education and very bad parenting.  No wonder he is so obsessed with defending a murderer!  

I must say, I am relieved that we have never bumped into anyone remotely resembling his type on any of our trips to the States!  Although the kind of places we frequent, he could never afford.

JLS is immensely thick, he is common, he idolises a murderer and everything he spouts is a lie.  The best thing of all is that his life is the very worst punishment you or I could imagine.

Knox is going to rot in prison and then rot in Hell!  JLS will no doubt meet her in Hell.

sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@Ghislane100 @jls1950 @Scrambler63 

JLS - How do you justify the barrage of abuse you have written about a potential rape victim ?!

You have called her ' a vile creature ', 'a little tramp' and 'a guilter' (for probably not following your views!), and suggested she was merely a 'prostitute'.

You have also shown astonishment that American women may not believe Knox's guilt - calling them 'guilters'. Just because they live in The States does not make them obliged to believe in everything American. 

You even suggested that a certain American woman must be an 'Italian man' for not following your very warped imagination :(

Your 'posts' suggest you have been brainwashed or are just plain mental. You seem to hate ALL WOMEN except the wretches that believe your warped views, or girls young enough to be your grandaughter :(

You are one sick, mentally retarded fool, whom seems to have also been brainwashed by the Good Ole USA.

Well done for having an independent view, moron :)



sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@Ghislane100 @jls1950 @Scrambler63 

Ghislane, I look forward to our lunch at the superb George Cinq :)

Not only Knox and her animal porn loving ex lay, Sollecito, will be imprisoned for life for the deviant sexual murder of Meredith, but it may also help stop the CR+P posted by JLS 1950!!

His so called "finely tuned" sense of "justice" is so far off the radar that he is  doing nothing but harming the Knox's PR team (if the scumbags can still afford one)!

I presume he is a volunteer to the Knox family and groupies, some old aged pervert who fancies young girls. What great public support he is honouring them with :(

I know if Knox was my daughter I would not like someone like him, and his weird views, anywhere near us :( In fact I would be seeking a restraining order !!

As Ghislane said earlier, his IQ is less than that of a sandwich.

I hope he provides his 'evidence' soon?!

The people on this board deserve to see what a true mental case this poster is, and the fantasy land he lives in :)

I imagine we will never receive any 'evidence' as there is none!!

Watch this space posters ;)



Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@jls1950 @Scrambler63 For such an obsessively long rant it is incredible that you  have failed to make one single valid and truthful point.

I trust that anyone with an IQ higher than that of a sandwich will be able to distinguish between utter bull**** and fact.

I would recommend you seek medical help but I am aware that, thanks to the medieval healthcare system in the States, you cannot afford said help.

Good luck with your endeavours, nut job!  I can already imagine you howling your eyes out for months when Knox gets banged up for life!

Myself and Side Partin will celebrate in style.  Rest assured, there will be a lunch booking made in the ever wonderful George Cinq on that day!


sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@jls1950 @Scrambler63 

You sad and ignorant " personae ".

You really are the utmost unintelligent and "persecuted ' person I have ever come across on a normal debating board.

I have called you out on other boards to supply back up sources of your ridiculous accusation's against Ghislane. You have never once had the respect to reply, knowing you have no answer's or substance. Therefore people will take your posts as absolute BULLS++T.

Readers will laugh at this entry - you should be humiliated to write such muck, with out any evidence at all. 

The world knows you are the most spied on citizens by their own government on the Earth, this persecuted attitude has sure rubbed off on the ignorant of your population - you see 'things' that are not really there.


It is obvious you are an extreme right wing "conspiracy theorist' with the most ignorant ' detective ' skills. I prey to God that your leaders do not follow in your shoes - it would cause worldwide chaos :(

It is like conversing with a government driven 'zombie' who see's things that are not really there :(

I can confirm 100% that Ghislane does not work for the 'Italian Government'

She is a very creative, fun loving,  sympathetic and a very intelligent girl. She copes with a long standing illness with dignity and positivity , far better than I could ever cope with !! She is a feisty girl with very strong opinions ;)

Any information supplied by Ghislane is due to hours of research on the internet, she does not have 'inside' information! 

If you were any real type of researcher, you too could have found these facts. You are obviously too lazy to spend time of any type looking for the true facts yourself :( This is your own homemade problem, so you cannot mirror your ignorance and accusations onto someone else !

I knew you would pop up your ignorant head when the other board would not accept your 'comments' anymore !

Keep humiliating yourself Mr Persecuted :)

I have noticed you have not once mentioned the true victim in this crime, the lovely, intelligent English Girl Meredith Kercher.

You have never mentioned the background of this case. Your only comments on this vile murder have been to attack a poster which you know not one jot about.

Your personality suggests that of an old 'armchair detective' who happens to fancy a young girl, far too many years younger than himself, to be decent.

Once again, Can you publish you any EVIDENCE?!

I have asked this in capitals so, even with the failing eyesight of an older man, you cannot ignore the question?!!

I will not hold my breath.

I would also suggest you stop posting spurious claims / insults without the thought of having any legal comeback.


Cheers :)





jls1950
jls1950

@Scrambler63  I would like to warn you here that Ghislane100 - like most of the truly vocal guilter / accusers who post so voluminously on these message boards - is almost certainly a multilingual Italian operating from a government office or agency either in Rome or in Perugia or in Milan. I have been able to ascertain that it at least very strongly appears that a relatively few posters are using proxy servers located everywhere from Talladega, AL, to Surrey England, to Greece, Montenegro, Finland, Belgium, Netherlands, likely France and several other places - and posting under a plethora of different names and accounts on scores of different web sites. 

These "personae" (multiple posting identities) tend to have certain things in common: they are very knowledgeable of the case, including volumes of insider information often not even available to the defendants and their families as yet; despite all that obvious knowledge, they continue to propound "theories" and "evidence" that have already been disproved conclusively; they never post about local issues and generally never about any other issues whatever except this one case; they all stick to certain core claims such as "Knox-Mellas PR Machine", "clean-up with bleach" (completely disproved and not even claimed at trial by police), "told so many lies" (Amanda Knox recitation of the night of 1 Nov 2007 has never changed from her published email home on 4 Nov except during a grueling 7+ hour overnight interrogation following more than 40 hours of other police questioning over 4 days), "questioned just 2-1/2 hours and then she confessed" (the timestamped documents produced by that "questioning" prove that it began by or before 11 PM and did not end until sometime well after 05:45 next morning), "bloody bare footprints revealed with luminol" (the police technician's own work records prove that she tested each and every such footprint for actual blood using the TMB test, and all were negative), "sex game gone bad" (bloodstains on victim Meredith Kercher's clothing and in her room prove that the first attempt to kill Meredith occurred while she was standing, fully dressed even to jacket and shoes from her walk home, facing a blank wall, with her attacker / killer standing close behind her - and was not disrobed until at least 10 minutes after suffering the second, actually-mortal wound), "computer records prove their alibi false" (police "accidentally" destroyed the harddrives in no less than THREE computers, so we have no way to know what the "computer records" might have shown), "bought bleach" (report only a year later by a shopkeeper who actually testified that he could not see the customer's face and that she left without buying anything at all), "found bleach receipts" (the receipts clearly state "pizza"), "burned the clothes she was wearing" (the clothes appear very clearly lying on Amanda's own bed - unstained and utterly innocent - in photos and videos recorded by police themselves on the very first day), "mopped the floor with bleach" (bloody shoe prints left by the real killer - identifiable as Nike Outbreak 2 shoes in a specific size for which a matching box was found in the possessions of Rudy Guede - were untouched, and whereas luminol reacts very strongly to bleach residue, no such reaction was noted at all - and the mop was dry), "wiped clean of fingerprints" (the fingerprint technician testified that he only looked for fingerprints in the murder room itself - where Amanda's and Raf's prints did not appear at all but Rudy Guede's were in abundance - and in the shared kitchen area - where Amanda's prints were found on a drinking glass; he made no attempt to look for any prints in Amanda's room or even in the room where the break-in occurred), "staged break-in" (Rudy Guede is known to have used the same break-in technique successfully just over a week prior and 2 blocks away), "blood on the knife" (it was tested for blood even before it was tested for DNA and was negative), "knife scrubbed with bleach" (disproved by chemical analysis - it had never touched bleach), "mixed blood" (it was proved that Knox was never bleeding, and what was found was Meredith's blood dripped by her killer and mixed with both Meredith's and Amanda's environmental DNA traces - from showering and rinsing mouths - in the shared bathroom), "accused an innocent man" (in the days immediately following the arrest, police and Mignini bragged that it was they who had identified Lumumba as the "killer" and had forced Amanda to name him - then when Lumumba's alibi checked out, it was all Amanda's fault!)

I could go on and on and on and on...

These posting "personae" always use the same language and make the same claims and have the same comebacks whenever challenged. I am pretty convinced that "they" are actually less than a half-dozen people and quite possibly as few as one or two. And "Ghislane100" bears all the marks of one of these "personae".

BTW, I am not connected in any way with either FOA or IIP, nor do I know or have any contact with Knox or her family or with anyone who really knows her personally. Nobody pays me to write these things: I just read a lot when I have time and I have a finely-tuned sense of justice and of defending the innocent and unjustly accused. And I always post under the same identity whenever and wherever that is possible.

sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@Ghislane100 @sidepartinmartin @Scrambler63 

I believe most of Knox groupies will be American, they are either so arrogant or stupid that they cannot believe one of their country women could commit such a disgusting crime :(

Knox has shown no emotion or anguish at all about the loss of Meredith, yet she claims they were good friends. 

One of her responses to Meredith's brutal murder was ' she was my friend, and I lost a friend '! 

A most selfish comment with no mention of the pain the Kercher's were feeling - this sentence is purely about HERSELF :(

Her personality has been seeping out for years, it is a shame many people are too ignorant to understand this :(

I see there is a documentary being released this summer regarding her various TV 'interviews'.  Professionals have studied these tapes and instantly pick out when she is lying - as when she kept swallowing when thinking how to answer a question! Even non professionals picked up on this, she has no normal traits at all!



Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@sidepartinmartin @Ghislane100 @Scrambler63 You are most welcome :)

Indeed, Nina Burleigh states here:

"But another shoe is also about to drop: Harper Collins plans to bring out Amanda Knox’s own book next month. For the company, which paid a reported $4 million for the memoir, the timing cannot be more perfect."

She could not have embarrassed herself more soundly!

Of course, she deserves to be embarrassed.  Here we have yet another 'journalist' who has jumped on the Knox fan club bandwagon, and who bases her belief of innocence on nothing more than lies and deceptions.  

Knox did it.  The evidence is there.  The timeline fits.  Knox had access and Knox had motive.  Knox is also a socially retarded psychopath.  Everything fits and anyone who says it doesn't is an ignoramus with a low IQ.

I doubt Burleigh even took the time to read the Micheli and the Massei.

The Hellmann is nothing more than a cherry picked piece of rot and has now been publicly thrown on the rubbish tip!  Any Knox fan clinging on to the Hellmann is officially a moron.

 It will not be long before Sollecito spills his guts, out of desperation, and Knox's groupies are forced to accept her guilt.  

If Burleigh had any class whatsoever she would apologise to the Kerchers at this point, however, she doesn't and will not.  She is representative of many Americans.





sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@Ghislane100 @sidepartinmartin @Scrambler63 

Thank you Ghislane :)

The Meredith haters have been extremely quiet since Knox's string of 'self promotion' interviews. It seems, in their silence, that they are also now believing in her guilt !! 

The Meredith haters have even critisised the recent scholarship that was awarded in Meredith's name - how low is that :(

Let's hope the Kercher's get the justice they deserve soon.

Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@sidepartinmartin @Scrambler63 @Ghislane100 Superb comment, Sidepartin!

Knox groupies purposefully ignore fact, they purposefully ignore evidence and they purposefully ignore any instinct to deduce abnormal human behaviour, to view Knox as innocent.

Given that we are all supposed to be born with an internal alarm to disturbed behaviour as an aid to survival, I would say that Knox fans are either intentionally quashing theirs, or they are 'disabled' in that they were not born with it in the first place.  This instinct on top of a reasonable intelligence and the sense to restrict ones source material to the facts found within the only official and sound reports, the Massei and the Micheli, tells you everything you need to know.

The sole reason Knox fans defend the Hellmann Appeal is that this cherry picked and intentionally twisted rubbish hides Knox's guilt.  It is for good reason that this has been publicly shamed and designated to the rubbish tip; it is bull!  It is also for good reason that Hellmann has be forcibly retired.  I think he got off lightly!

It is preposterous that some Knox fans continue to pretend to care for the Kerchers!  This is just as bad as the behaviour of the rest; they prefer to slander and insult the Kerchers, as though they deserve no pity for being nothing other than victims in this pitiful mess!

The Kerchers have behaved with utter dignity and class throughout.  When you compare their behaviour with that of the Knox's, we English deserve to feel very proud!  We are obviously bought up in a very much superior way!!

It will not be too much of a wait now for Meredith's family.  The new trial will reassert the sound and solid evidence against Knox and Sollecito!  There are also a mass of uncomfortable and difficult questions waiting for them.  The sole reason the new trial has been given the go-ahead, is the fact that the evidence against them is so strong, as is the likelihood of a guilty outcome!  

I am completely certain that the 2 filthy murderers are going to be banged up for life, and that Sollecito will turn against Knox and spill his guts.  It will be a very successful outcome for those of us who do not deny the truth.

sidepartinmartin
sidepartinmartin

@Scrambler63 @Ghislane100 

It is not wanting someone to suffer if they are truly innocent, but wanting justice for Meredith and her family. You have no right to guess if this matter would make the poor Kercher's suffering or mourning any worse than it already is.

I can assure you the one subject that must upset them is the self publicity and promotion that Knox has sought. She has shown blatant disregard for Meredith and her family, even wanting the Kercher's to give her permission to visit Meredith's grave :( How crass!

She was originally found guilty, and most likely will be again. If she has belief in her own innocence she will return to Italy to fight her cause, but I really believe that she will be running scared !!

Her previous personal affairs and behaviours are actually very interesting, for they give her true personality, and make up her character now.

These traits cannot be hidden by her, her disgusting behaviour at University in both The States and Italy, sum up her real personality. Knox was virtually obsessed with sex and bragged about having sex with a stranger on a train, was well known for being over friendly with men and even "bragged" that she could have anyone she wanted!

She spent the majority of her time stoned or drunk, having signed up to the fewest classes. She would smoke dope as soon as she awoke.

The one person she could and did not attract was Meredith's boyfriend. This caused her to be bitterly jealous of the lovely Meredith. Meredith's intuition about Knox was correct, after saying that she found Knox and her behaviour "disturbing". Meredith hated the string of strange men that Knox bought to their cottage, as most normal young girls would do. She also disliked the fact that Knox herself was filthy dirty and that she did nothing to help clean the cottage. 

I think Knox had many problems with Meredith, for she was the complete opposite of what she would have liked to be.

Knox was not a girl's girl, she preferred the company of men who she could drink with, take drugs with and then to top it off, sleep with.

Her recent 'lay' when Meredith was killed was an animal porn loving 'Harry Potter lookalike'. Know was reading a Harry Potter and wanted 'HP' as a boyfriend. They were both high on drugs / drink and both had deviant sexual thoughts. Meredith was the perfect victim in their minds :( Boyfriend loves animal porn and Knox appears to like violent sex. She had previously written an odd story about rape, which from the passages I have seen, she almost defends the rapist :(

So, yes her past affairs do matter when it comes to summing up ones personality traits. This is why profilers are employed to help catch killers.



Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@Scrambler63 @Ghislane100 John Kercher knows Knox is guilty and has said as such, so you can drop your bull****.  Knox is guilty.  You will see all the evidence when the new trial starts.

Scrambler63
Scrambler63

@Ghislane100 @Scrambler63 Don't say what's on their mind when you don't know.  They just want the truth, which is her murderer is already in jail.  And thanks to people that are focusing on the salacious instead of the factual, it's possible he's going to get out in less than a year.  Was Knox involved?  Show me evidence that hasn't been thoroughly debunked.  

Ghislane100
Ghislane100

@Scrambler63 @Ghislane100 Don't waste your time attempting to come across as caring towards the Kerchers.  You support their daughters murderer; that, in their mind, is just the same as you being a fan of the devil.

Knox is guilty and will be found so soon enough.  The evidence is there, you just choose to ignore it.

Scrambler63
Scrambler63

@Ghislane100 @Scrambler63 I don't particularly think Knox comes across as "likable" person.  I don't care about her personal affairs. I don't "root" for or against her.  Those things don't matter to me and legal bills affect persons innocent and guilty the same.  This is all the stupid crap I was referring to.  

If there was any real evidence against her I'd feel differently.  Otherwise, this is just torturing the Kercher family by making them thing someone is getting away with something when all it is is that you get joy in seeing someone suffer.