France Legalizes Gay Marriage Despite Vocal and Angry Opposition

France's leftist-controlled legislature passes law legalizing marriage and adoption rights for same-sex couples, but the deep division the measure produced across France will linger.

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French lawmakers pointing at protesters attempting to disrupt the final vote to legalize same-sex marriage in the French Parliament in Paris on April 23, 2013

Controversial legislation establishing marriage and adoption rights for same-sex couples cleared final passage in France on April 23 after a 331-to-225 vote in the left-controlled Parliament. But the protests it has prompted in recent months aren’t likely to fade any time soon. As France’s opposition conservatives promise to mount legal challenges to block the law’s application, leaders of the well-organized and vocal groups who’ve fought the measure will continue denouncing it as an attack on matrimony and the traditional family unit.

The French lower house of Parliament on Tuesday passed the so-called Marriage for All bill, which opens marriage and adoption to same-sex couples with identical rights previously limited to heterosexual unions. That vote — which was largely split down left-right lines — makes France the ninth E.U. member and the 14th nation in the world to legalize same-sex marriage. Opponents decried the legislation — which was one of Socialist President François Hollande’s main campaign promises — as deforming time-honored definitions of marriage and endangering children by permitting gay and lesbian couples to adopt. French public opinion was mixed: polls have consistently shown around 60% of people favoring legalization of same-sex marriage, with a small majority opposed to adoption rights accompanying that reform.

(MORE: Is Gay Marriage Too Progressive for the French?)

Indeed, given France’s rather liberal, live-and-let-live social reputation abroad, it struck some foreign observers as ironic the French took so long — and battled so bitterly — to legalize same-sex marriage that purportedly stodgier “Anglo-Saxon” countries like the U.S. and U.K. now appear to be moving toward rapidly. Be that as it may, backers of Marriage for All cheered its final passage — and expect, once the law clears constitutional review in late May, the first legal same-sex marriages to be performed in June.

“It’s a generous law, and a law of equality,” an elated Christiane Taubira, Socialist Justice Minister and author of the bill, told Parliament after the vote. “We believe the first weddings will be beautiful and that they’ll bring a breeze of joy, and that those who are opposed to them today will surely be confounded when they are overcome with the happiness of the newlyweds and the families.”

That’s a nice thought, but the deep divisions that have erupted and spread across France since Marriage for All was introduced in November will not close quickly — as opponents now warn. Political conservatives, social traditionalists and members of all of France’s main religious organizations have loudly voiced their common hostility to a measure they see as deforming the institution of marriage and family unit. Banding together in collective protests, opponents of the legislation staged numerous demonstrations in cities across France and drew as many as 800,000 people during one of four Paris marches. Leaders warn they’ll neither dissolve the movement, nor ease pressure on political leaders until the pending law is rescinded.

The size and militancy of the gay-marriage opposition appear to have increased with time. That also includes indications that extremist elements from the French far right may have also joined the movement. Overtly homophobic slogans were carried and chanted by small clusters of demonstrators in recent Paris marches, where clashes with police also occurred.

Similar violence has also broken out between cops and demonstrators who gathered each night outside Parliament ahead of the April 23 vote. That’s not the only way the protest movement — or people claiming to be part of it — has radicalized. Savage attacks on gay men have also recently occurred in Paris, Lille, Bordeaux and Nice amid what backers of Marriage for All claim is an intolerable atmosphere of homophobia created by the proposal’s enemies.

Leaders of the protest movement have denied any homophobic sentiment or intent behind their campaign, and they have denounced the recent insults and attacks on gays and lesbians across France. They’ve been less apologetic, however, about the ways gay-marriage opponents have targeted politicians and pundits who’ve led the push for the reform’s swift passage into law.

Struggle over Marriage for All has challenged politics-as-usual in other ways as well. Though virtually all leftist legislators fell in behind Hollande’s landmark social reform throughout its voyage to Tuesday’s vote, the measure split the centrist Union of Democrats and Independents party into starkly opposing camps of people supporting or rejecting the bill. Meantime, several members of the conservative Union for a Popular Movement (UMP) party wound up abstaining while fellow members voted against the text. Most of those UMP holdouts — many younger party risers who served in cabinets of by ex-President Nicolas Sarkozy — had previously expressed their personal support of a reform, even if politics prevented them from voting for it. Six UMP legislators bucked the party’s line and cast votes backing the bill.

But common opposition to Marriage for All inspired several UMP officials to march alongside legislators from the extreme-right National Front (FN) during an April 21 protest in Paris. That broke a long-standing taboo among mainstream conservatives prohibiting association or partnership with the toxic far right — a precedent some political analysts think may eventually see a block of the UMP breaking off to occupy far-right positions traditionally monopolized by the FN. Such expectations suggest that if Marriage for All creates the legal opportunity for wedded bliss for same-sex couples, it’s only just started provoking serious domestic unrest within some of France’s political families.

MORE: Where Does France’s Unmarried President Really Stand on Same-Sex Marriage?

55 comments
paulgeorges
paulgeorges

Priority of Hollande the gay marriage.Not unemployement,not rising poverty, not droping economy.....    It's best to have Beppe Grillo than  Sarkozy who made only promises, and this one who only legalise homosexuality and don't care other things  !  

Thierrylauret
Thierrylauret

Shame on France, it is a degrading and abominable act for humanity!

tgm404
tgm404

Yet again, Catholics display themselves as the Religion of Hate, and demand to force their their religious beliefs on everyone else. 

Riaan26
Riaan26

As time goes on eventually all this anti-gay nonsense will stop. Young people today are much more accepting of gays and eventually all these old folks who grew up and were told to hate gays will eventually die out. Thank goodness.

oldskool
oldskool

Question: How do you go about destroying our democratic capitalist society?  In his Theses on Feuerbach, Karl Marx provided the answer: destroy the traditional family.

From the 1963 United States Senate Report on Communist Goals for America, Congressional Record - Appendix, pp. A34-A35

Line items 25 and 26, 40 and 41 of 45 Goals:

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasise the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

the Gay lobby is using SSM as a proxy to attack Christianity

Despite its faults, Christianity has served western society well. For its teachings and moral code to be replaced by the unknown or he Homosexual agenda is cause for deep concern.

radkecaitlin7
radkecaitlin7

Religion is the most exploited piece of information in the world. It is used as an excuse, it is 'followed', it is reworded. Why do religious people see the need to 'fix' the world? Why do people feel the need to shove their religion down other peoples throat? Religion and love do not go hand in hand yet they are placed hand in hand. This also begs the question that without religion would this world be a more peaceful one? Let people live their lives the way they want to! Do no continue to discriminate against the population based on their sexuality because as human beings we do not have the right to tell others how to live their lives. Remember, there is a difference between Gender and Sex. Your gender may be male but your sex may not be and vice versa. Therefore, what is the definition of Homosexual? 

CrossWinds
CrossWinds

God does not recognize homosexual union. He would not join something together that He condemns. Homosexuals that don't marry live in sin. Homosexuals that do marry live in sin. It makes no difference. Your argument is with God, not me. .......

.....Romans 3:4.....
...... Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. As it is written: “That You may be justified in Your words, And may overcome when You are judged.”...........

.....1 Corinthians 6:9-11....
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God......

It can't get much simpler than that 

SelenaRodriguez
SelenaRodriguez

It wasn't legal already? How could that be with a 90% gay population?

RightToMic
RightToMic

France has been gay for hundreds of years.  Making it legal seems like the right thing to do.

beyond_ultimate
beyond_ultimate

@paulgeorges Pretty disgusting. I also notice, going around slaughtering homosexual activists on the internet with facts vs. their lies and deception, some of them even whine to me claiming such things as why are you worried about the gay issues when there are allot more important things going on in the world. I respond by sharing that there were allot of the same things going on when they decided to start trashing marriage but that din't stop them from continuing to trash marriage.!


 Sharing fact which reveal homosexual activists for the liars and deceivers they prove to be has had them impose their rhetoric upon me claiming that I am a hater, or a bigot for opposing their rubbish. I have been discriminated against for years and banned from hundreds of sites while raising public awareness from these homosexual activists who call upon their buddy's to gang up on management with false allegations and they have gotten away with it because people are weak. All I am doing is sharing facts which reveal them for the liars and deceivers they p[rove to be so society is cleansed and things move towards justification instead of selfishness of this bias group through imposing false threats of their own ignorance.

 When you stand up against homosexuals deceiving and discriminating heterosexuals that makes you automatically a bigot or a hater or a homophobe says the bigots themselves.


love


/ David

beyond_ultimate
beyond_ultimate

@ThierrylauretThousands of years prove that only heterosexuals were honored with marriage despite the recent mockery gays are attempting to make of it. Even heterosexual couples who can not have children doesn't disrespect that marriage was created for an in honor of heterosexual unions.


The bias homosexual activist agenda is coming to a close, marriage was never about honoring decay of which gay = decay, it has always been about honoring the union of the one sexual orientation to which we owe our existence = heterosexuality.


I don't have a problem with homosexuals having sex with homosexuals, no problem at all. I am "not" ok with homosexuals deceiving heterosexuals because we are not homosexual, we are no bi sexual which means also that we are not homosexual guinea pigs. And yes that this goes on makes me very angry because heterosexuals deserve to be respected for our sexual orientation instead of being discriminated against by these sick deceptions..


Heterosexuals Are Not Homosexual Guinea Pigs / Genital Mutilation


http://youtu.be/r7vezOwTVnQ


/ David



Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/04/23/france-legalizes-same-sex-marriage/#ixzz2RUQpNXhO

oldskool
oldskool

@tgm404 

Much use is made of the fabricated term "homophobe" to attack and discredit as “haters’ and “bigots” anyone who has a sincere objection (religious or otherwise) to the same sex marriage. This is an aggressive form of intimidation by the Gay Lobby.

ShelterSomerset
ShelterSomerset

@tgm404 Iowa is mostly Catholic, and yet following their same-sex marriage ruling four years ago this month, there were no widespread violent riots or attacks against homosexuals. In fact, the past four years have been rather peaceful in Iowa. Perhaps the violence in France isn't so much a reflection of Catholics, but of the French themselves? And I'm pretty certain France's sizable Muslim population (the largest in Europe after Russia), might have participated in some of the violence. Anti-Christian sentiments don't necessarily make you uber cool and tolerant. 

tgm404
tgm404

@JohnRitchie I could quote more people who want to imprison all gays, and execute them if they won't become heterosexual.

LeslieDF
LeslieDF

@JohnRitchie 

There were no protests in France in 1999 when the Parliament enacted PACs (
pacte civil de solidarité).  94% of those "civil unions" are now heterosexual couples in France.  For every 4 PACs in France there are 5 marriages.  Well over 50% of children in France are born to single mothers.  Divorce is as popular in France as America.

All the talk about "a mommy and daddy for every child" and your "harangue" about the "destruction of marriage" are hilarious.

If you want to put your other foot in your mouth, go ahead.  It's your business, if you want to shoot yourself in the foot, but go ahead.

ShelterSomerset
ShelterSomerset

@JohnRitchie Those are some radical left wing nuts who do not reflect the general consensus of gay marriage supporters. In many respects, gay marriage proves that gay people prefer traditional values over the left wing anarchists. 

pretendods2
pretendods2

@JohnRitchie first off that's only 12 i repeat 12 people out of who knows how many others speaking out for gay marriage who do not share the same opinion as those 12. secondly most of those i've heard others say as well such as marriage is an outdated concept so what's your point? you haven't proven anything. all you've proven is what these 12 people's opinions are and that's all bc not all same sex marriage advocates or those that speak out share the same things as these 12 people. so no i'm not shocked.

oldskool
oldskool

@Riaan26  

as time goes on

 people get smarter

2 years ago I knew nothing of what I am talking about

the gay lobby want gay indoctrination in the schools


sadly for the gay agenda "useful idiots"  most parents don't want their kids to be gay, and gay indoctrination in schools etc will increase the practice of homosexuality. Not something too many parents want for their kids.



oldskool
oldskool

@DavidPettinicchio  

the same could be said about prop 8 in California

When the apathetic are mobilized the tide changes

Gov Arnold found this out

Hollande is finding this out now

LeslieDF
LeslieDF

@oldskool 

A religion does not "serve society," if it is a religion.  And, whatever "the homosexual agenda" is, in your mind, it's not a "religion."

Any "deep concern" should be for the proxy that serves as your brain.

ThomasAlex
ThomasAlex

@oldskool 

Just one thing, God does not exist nor has he ever. Why Christianity? Christianity is a very "new" religion, it only dates back 2,000 years. While mankind dates back 3.5 million years. Seems you put your faith in a religion that is completely made up by man. Maybe you'd have better luck with the Egyptians? 

downpour
downpour

How does gay marriage 'destroy the traditional family'? Gay people will still be gay regardless of whether they are married. It's not like there is a shortage of traditional families either.

You are basically just homophobic.

LeslieDF
LeslieDF

@CrossWinds 

"
Your argument is with God, not me"  "It can't get much simpler than that."

Then why are you here commenting?  Do you have some grand delusion?

LeslieDF
LeslieDF

@oldskool @DavidPettinicchio 

France does not have a national DOMA.  Individual regions of France do not determine who can marry.  People in a region and the entire country do not "vote" on someone else's marriage.

Say what you like about Prop 8 in California.  It does not make any sense in itself, or compared to France.

oldskool
oldskool

@LeslieDF@oldskool 

I appreciate your insult, 

Again, i take the opportunity to point out the @ hates of Communism

1. Family and 2.  Religion

the gay lobby can kill 2 birds with one stone

 And Karl Marx's loyal pal Friedrich Engels, in his work, The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the States, disclosed the game plan in a single, succinct plan:

change the concept of matrimony, and the traditional family will cease to exist. And once the family is gone, society will fall apart. Knock out the cornerstone, and the whole edifice will crumble, which is precisely the ultimate goal of the so called "progressive” (aka revolutionary communist) movement.

 


ColdFarrell
ColdFarrell

@ThomasAlex @oldskool Keep telling yourself that. Speaking of fanciful beliefs, I bet you also believe that gays are "born that way" despite no hard scientific nor chemical evidence to support that pseudo science nonsense. All homosexuality is is a glorified fetish. No proof other than the afore mentioned fake science claims that it isnt.

oldskool
oldskool

@ThomasAlex @oldskool  

Oh I think the Bible talks of the beginning of humanity.

You however may be familiar wit the term "useful idiot" often attributed ti Joseph Stalin who used this term to describe the ill informed who were promoting the communist agenda with no idea why they were doing so.

Go look it up- I believe the Socialists / Communists have got the Gay community frothing at the mouth with anger over something they never ever have access to in the same way I can't enter a female bathroom, Do I claim victim status and discrimination? 

oldskool
oldskool

@downpour 

Do you label me "homophobic" to

A: discredit my values and beliefs?

B:  discredit me as ignorant?

C: show me as a hater, bigot and discriminator?

D:   Intimidate me to conform to your set of values?

E. Embarrass me into silence?

or all of the above?


Much use is made of the fabricated term "homophobe" to attack and discredit as “haters’ and “bigots” anyone who has a sincere objection (religious or otherwise) to the same sex marriage. This is an aggressive form of intimidation by the Gay Lobby. 

And Karl Marx's loyal pal Friedrich Engels, in his work, The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the States, disclosed the game plan in a single, succinct plan: change the concept of matrimony, and the traditional family will cease to exist.And once the family is gone, society will fall apart. Knock out the cornerstone, and the whole edifice will crumble, which is precisely the ultimate goal of the so called “progressive” (aka revolutionary communist) movement.


downpour
downpour

I don't think so, a lot of gay people 'are' Christian. It's the Internet that is causing the downfall of Christianity as it gives people easy access to information. Religion has only clung on as long as it has, because in the past it was easy to keep people ignorant. The only people who will be religious in the future are those who are 'wilfully' ignorant.

beyond_ultimate
beyond_ultimate

@oldskool @tgm404 Also if any insane homosexual activist make mention of any ancient civilization having ceremonies about gay couples to try and make marriage to be about homosexual activist delusions, remind them of the fact that it was not marriage!

 Everyone has always had the right to marry the opposite sex because that is what marriage is about despite this temporary modern day mockery that these Insane homosexual activists have made of marriage as they are always trying to dictate lies and deceptions as the way it is while forcing ignorance towards the very facts which reveal them for the liars and deceivers they prove to be.
  Share that with the general public on main stream media and see how the public reacts to being deceived by these insane incompetent homosexual activists and you watch how fast marriage is restored to a respectable state globally and you watch how fast that criminalizing discrimination against heterosexuality becomes law globally!
 When presenting these facts, prepare for the first thing that is going to happen, and that is that homosexual activists are going to ignore these facts as they will instead desperately attempt to make their lies and deceptions the issue. Just keep reminding them that they still have not contested these facts which reveal them for the liars and deceivers that hey already prove to be in the first place! Also remind them that sharing fact does not make you a homophobe, a hater or a bigot as well remind them of the fact that standing up for heterosexuality does not make you a bigot, a hater or a homophobe!
 I have spent years being discriminated against for sharing this information. Banned off websites for standing up for all of us heterosexuals with facts backing all of my claims which continue to go uncontested with even so much as a shred of opposing validity to this very day! I've been banned from hundreds of sites attempting to raise awareness to the general public! Then I get slandered by these liars and deceiving cowards after I get banned from sites by people who know I can't respond to a site I just got banned from.
 Point is I do the best work on the globe when it comes to the foundations of primary Canadian and Global issues I address and all I ever get for it is slandered, banned and discriminated against. I want you all to know that this is all worth it and it is my pleasure! I gave up on my own selfishness long ago because I saw the globe heading in a direction of being flushed down the toilet with a bunch of lies and deceptions used to fool the public which means that I am not allowing myself to move on with my life until I have assured that globe globe can start  to learn to justify the foundations of issues with primary fact instead of with the delusions, the deceptions and lies of the selfishly insane.
 It's one thing to see a deception, but it's quite another too see right through deceptions as I have demonstrated. Now that you have this information of my years of work and experience presented before you on a silver platter of presented fact, I only hope that you have the sense to make good use of it and help start raising public awareness by sharing this with as many as you are ready willing and able thus finally lead to throw our weak parliaments into democratic submission to finally do what the soon to become "aware" public will demand for actual justification instead of allowing our parliaments to weakly continue enforcing lies and deceptions as they shamefully still continue to get away with in days of now!. 
love
David Jeffrey SpetchPs. Be good, be strong!

oldskool
oldskool

@LeslieDF @oldskool @DavidPettinicchio  

you missed the point completely

the percentage of support goes down dramatically when the apathetic objectors are educated on the reality of Same Sex marriage

may point is that France had no idea the support would drop and neither did gov Arnold 

Gov aronold was stupid enough to put it to a vote

and in the "land of the Free" (that would be your nation of USA) the so called freedom is now determined by a few judges in courts of law. the democratic process of prop 8 is being ignored

oldskool
oldskool

@LeslieDF @oldskool  

I will try to get out more, thanks for the advice

So if they are dead- why are you a disciple of their teachings ?

an agenda built on lies can only justify itself so far. looks like you have reached your limit.

You are struggling to justify the you myth of dicrimination.



LeslieDF
LeslieDF

@oldskool @LeslieDF 
Try to get out more often.  Marx and Engels are dead along with the manifesto.

Try going after some other religious groups that do not support your "cornerstone" for societies in the rest of the world.  Lots to choose from there.

You're convinced the "gay lobby" are "communists."  You have a proxy serving as a brain.

Try to get out more often, or stay in, but do some reading about current events and history. 

LeslieDF
LeslieDF

@oldskool @ThomasAlex 

Many bathrooms in France are used by either and both males and females.

If you want to enter, and if you cannot enter a "female" bathroom, then you have the problem.  What do you do in a bathroom anyway?

oldskool
oldskool

@alakyadav@oldskool

The Gay lobby use as a weapon  the fabricated term "homophobia" to attack and discredit as “haters’ and “bigots” anyone who has a sincere objection (religious or otherwise) to same sex marriage. This is an aggressive form of intimidation by the Gay Lobby

Homosexuals have calculatedly cast themselves as "innocent victims of discrimination" to gain sympathy from the ignorant

their agenda is clear

 1. destroy Christianity or distort it into their version

2  homsexualise your children through indoctrination from birth

3 homosexualise society through "anti discrimination" legislature.

4  homosexualise legislature. through taking freedom of speech away from their hated foe the Christian hence everyone with any objection to homosexual indoctrination

through their PC methods and aggressive agenda of Fascism

alakyadav
alakyadav

@oldskool No, you do not respect my "arument", and it's really ironic to read comments about education and family values from people with mindset like yours. Grow up!

And I'm so glad that you brought religion into this, now that I'll no longer need to argue with you. An anti-gay, religious bigot. You're the perfect example. Agenda? The only agenda here is by the people who are not at all happy with their lives, and hence are finding ways to make sure that others aren't happy either. But guess what? This has begin. Your so-called values and morals (which are nothing but pure ignorance and hatred) are dying, and the world is finally becoming free. And by no way will you be able to stop this. May peace be on you!

oldskool
oldskool

@alakyadav @oldskool  

I respect your arument

I am sorry that you are not educated or aware enough to recognise what the traditional family is.

 or is it fair to say that your indignation at my "ignorance" demonstrates your disgust and hatred of this "traditional family" which you apparently have no idea about?

So what are the two great enemies of Communism?

Family & Religion

 because they take loyalty away from the state

SSM is a wonderful example to mobilize a community to promote the Communist agenda

 What I am saying is that the gay lobby is doing the bidding of the Left wing Socialists 

alakyadav
alakyadav

@oldskool  Look, you're embarrassing yourself. 

A: If your so-called beliefs and values say that my whole life is "wrong", then you can't really expect me (or any other person with a bit of common sense) to respect them.  

B: If you think Homosexuality is an agenda to "destroy the traditional family" (whatever that means), then you're quite ignorant.

C: You're telling an entire group of the population that they can't marry and thus are presenting them as a second class citizen, for something they can't change and something that is not affecting anyone else. Yes, that's called bigotry.

D: No one's trying to impose their thinking or values on you, hoping that you'll follow them. If you don't want Gay marriage, simply don't marry a Gay person. If you think someone else's marriage is going to destroy yours, you are rather insecure and need help.

E: As I already mentioned, your ignorant comments should be enough for you to fall into silence already. But we all live in a free world, which guarantees everyone freedom to speech. And you're not alone. Unfortunately, this world still has a significant amount of narrow-minded freaks who love poking their nose in other's matters.

I hope that you eventually realise your mistakes and don't end up registered on the wrong side of the history. May God bless you!

oldskool
oldskool

@pretendods2 @oldskool @downpour  

I accept that this is the case

maybe the gay lobby will go after other religions i time

But make no mistake about it (the evidence is in the comments here)

Same Sex Marriage is a proxy or front to attack Christianity

pretendods2
pretendods2

@oldskool @downpour Christianity is a religion just like any other religion such as buddhism wiccan hindu and shinto and countless others.

oldskool
oldskool

@downpour  

You call it religion, I call it Christianity

is calling me "ignorant" your way of belittling me? 

In fact some very educated informed people are Christians

I think the new "religion" of Homosexuality and atheism are the new religions of the day complete with all their indignation a fervor taught from the pulpit of society


The problem for you is that Christianity despite some mistakes has made the society you live in and the freedoms you enjoy without having to lie and mislead


the gay lobby is built on lies and decption