Philippine Troops Clash with Muslim Rebels in Southern City of Zamboanga

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In the vast southern Philippine island of Mindanao, deadly clashes between Philippine government forces and fighters from a separatist outfit, reportedly holding dozens of hostages, continue to rage. Whole districts of the city of Zamboanga, perched on the western edge of Mindanao, have been evacuated as gun battles ring around its streets. The Moro National Liberation Front, which claims to represent the island’s Muslims, has waged a longstanding insurgency against rule from Manila. Despite advances by Philippine government troops, who say they have reclaimed 70 percent of the areas of Zamboanga seized by Islamist insurgents in early September, an estimated 100 guerrilla fighters remain holed up in the southern Philippine city together with more than 100 hostages. Some 80,000 residents of the area have fled the violence.

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AlexFeltham
AlexFeltham

Islam is different.

Firstly, the Koran is very bloody about what will happen to unbelievers.

Secondly, there is a duality in Muslim morality. Whereas killing or raping another Muslim is considered wrong. To do that to an infidel is a religious duty (at least to good Muslims who have read the Koran and hadith)

There's a great post on the issue called: "Muslim Terrorism Is Different" at:

http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/#!/2013/09/muslim-terrorism-is-different.html





IonotterTroutnoodler
IonotterTroutnoodler

Do not delude yourself for one single femtosecond that Christians wouldn't be doing the exact same thing HERE, in the United States of America.  The only reason they *don't* do it here, is because they know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the US government would reduce them to a bloody smear on a wall.

Islam, Hinduism, Christianity, Pastarfarian:  it doesn't matter.  If the government isn't strong enough to enforce order, religion will get people killed.

AlbieRossouw
AlbieRossouw

Well guys I don't agree with anyone and I am neutral but I feel that this killing is uncalled for and why not sit around a table and talk things out and maybe come up with a solution for both sides.

Why all the killings lets all live in PEACE and HARMONY

WalterZiobro
WalterZiobro

What hasn't been mentioned in this brief article is that there are several rebel groups in the Philippines who claim to represent the Muslims there.  The government has been negotiating with one of the other groups, and the MNLF got miffed that they weren't consulted, even though the government had already made a deal with the MNLF earlier.  Each of these groups thinks that it is the sole bargaining agent for the Muslim people.

tesmith47
tesmith47

the muslims  philipenos have been the only  who have consistently fought for freedom against all invaders, spanish, japanise, americans and the christian government that has discriminated against them for generations.

The Moro Rebellion was the second phase of the Philippine-American War, following the so-called Philippine Insurrection phase. After the capture of Philippine patriot Emilio Aguinaldo and the surrender of the majority of Philippine forces on Luzon, many regions remained beyond the control of the American forces. In spite of the announcement of President Theodore Roosevelt in 1902 that the Philippines had been subdued, sporadic fighting continued in many areas.

The southern area of the Philippine Islands continued to resist strenuously. With great difficulty, American forces gained control over the remainder of the Philippine Islands, particularly the moslem (Moro) island centered on Mindanao. The Moro Rebellion did not abate until 1913, when the American government promised the eventual independence of the country.

Modern Moslem inhabitants of the southern Philippines see the Moro Rebellion as one phase of a continuing struggle against outside influences, the Spanish, the Americans, and the central government of the Philippines. 

i bet you dumb ass, christian  anglos did not know that the philipeans was muslim BEFORE SPANISH CHRISTIANS CAME AND STARTED THE CONFLICT THAT CONTINUES TODAY.  Damn christians have gone all around the world and started conflicts for the last few hundred years!!!!!!!

References:

tesmith47
tesmith47

the muslims were there BEFORE the western invasion of spain and christianity, The muslims are fighting a war of INDEPENDENCE against CHRISTIANIZED INVADERS, AND  dont forget that while the phillipeno leaders were cooperating with the japanise  invaders the muslims were fighting against the japanise and were never defeated. .

there has been a historical discrimination against the muslims ever since the spanish and christianity showed up. it is like this all over the world, the western capitalist and military shows up with Christianity as a weapon to steal resources  and when the natives fight back you people complain!!!  how hypocritical can you be???

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anonymous.kid19213108
anonymous.kid19213108

People, let's be rational here. It's not that all muslims are bad. It's just these handful. If you ACTUALLY get to know muslims, they are ordinary people, like you and me. It would be unfair if other people associated christians and the bible with the Westboro Church, so why generalize muslims as bad people if it is only a handful of people? Before generalizing, I believe you should try to read about the koran, and not what people say about it. Please, be mature about it. I'm in a christian school and there are muslims here that get together with everyone just fine.

angelnova706@gmail.com
angelnova706@gmail.com

As long as there are Muslims in any part of this world, there will never be peace.  Muslims are Muslims who all read and follow the Koran, their law which is full of hate towards all unbelievers and infidels.  The only solution left is copy what Israel is doing.  Meet them head on and do not be afraid.  An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 

CrossWinds
CrossWinds

Where is the Fruit of Islam? I see much strife, division, bloodshed, violence, and war between muslim sects. But I do see much fruit in the nations where Christs love and his forgiveness is offered. It brings peace with God, and one another.........

........Colossians 1:5-6......

5 because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, 6 which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit, as it is also among you since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth...

spot60spot
spot60spot

@TIME Why are Muslims rebels? Islam is supposed to be the worlds best religion and way of life. Benefits for all!! NOT

WaqarRasool
WaqarRasool

@AlexFeltham Religion is not something you can pass a judgement on by reading a blogpost, (and that too by a non muslim). People spend years in search of the truth, if you want the truth take some time out and get in touch with a muslim scholar who can help you in understanding what islam is before assuming or making up such thoughts.

JackyJohnson
JackyJohnson

@IonotterTroutnoodler Lol, I assume you're trolling, but I'll bite. Your statement seems a little exaggerated, especially your use of the prefix femto. Not defending religion here, but the majority of Americans are Christian. It stands to reason that they also make up the majority of politicians, soldiers, etc. It seems to me that they would have a pretty good chance of succeeding if they tried "the exact same thing HERE," but they don't. Also, why would they? They already have a huge amount of representation, and many of their morals/ethics are already part of the law. I realize you were trying to make a point about religion in general, but your point is kind of ridiculous.

harleylovinchelley
harleylovinchelley

@tesmith47 You are full of baloney. The Moslems didn't arrive in the Philipines until 1300's. They were NOT the first people there. Then the Spanish came and helped make it productive. If the moslems controlled the islands everyone would live in poverty just like in Afghanistan, or any of the other 'stans' that don't have oil.

GGaia
GGaia

@tesmith47 

In the Philippines the Roman Catholic religion is 80.9%, 

Muslim 5%, 

Evangelical 2.8%,

 Iglesia ni Kristo 2.3%, 

Aglipayan 2%, 

other Christian 4.5%, 

other 1.8%, 

unspecified 0.6%, 

none 0.1% (2000 census)

 The Philippines is a predominantly a Christian nation.

*******************************

Google: (Buddhism in the Philippines) Buddhism is the oldest recorded religion. NOT ISLAM.

(The archaeological finds include many artifacts from Buddhist or Hindu mythologies that have been dated to the 9th century. The style of these artifacts is of Vajrayana Buddhism, and suggests the influence of the Srivijaya empire. 

The old Buddhism religion began to decline in present-day Moro areas with the arrival of Muslim missionaries in the 14th century.) 

********************************

 Wow OLDEST religion in the Philippines (Buddhism) started to decline when Muslim missionaries took over in the 14th century....I wonder why???????????????? :)  

shawn007
shawn007

@tesmith47 Stop embarrassing yourself, the Filipino people and Muslims with your inaccuracies and sickening hate.  You have one thing on your mind and it's not intelligent in the very least.

#libtardedamerica
#libtardedamerica

@anonymous.kid19213108 

because it's not just a handful genius. it's hundreds of thousands, if not millions, around the world, who are perpetrating violence or advocating violence against non-muslims on a daily basis. westboro consists of about 30 members and they don't advocate violence, just hate. comparing the two is absurd. 

WaqarRasool
WaqarRasool

@#libtardedamerica @harleylovinchelley  violence is not a result of Islam or any religion, its because of illiteracy and lack of moral education. Do you find trouble in Dubai? or Abu Dhabi or any place where there are educated muslims? they are among the most peaceful nations on this planet. I know of illiterate Christians who promote violence against other religions, does it make that christianity is a violent religion? Religion is not the problem, Poverty, illiteracy, lack of moral education and lack of justice... these are the causes of violence my friend. If you trace out, wherever there is such violence you will find one or more of these above mentioned  problems there for sure. 

tesmith47
tesmith47

@harleylovinchelley @tesmith47 the fact of the matter is that islam arrived in the late 1300, and the Philippians were doing very well with islam as the abrahamac  monotheism, that is until the rapacious , thieving christian spanish arrived..

your understanding of the world  is  very deficient, and i know it is not your fault, you are a victim of christian european brain washing.    for your edification a very short history lesson:

the muslim  world was doing just fine and really was the only civilized part of thing in the west, they had internal problems that  stressed their empire and counter attacks by  the christian  west  brought about their demise. in the last few years the moslem world has been at a low point temporarily.

remember,  the west has only been ascendent for  2 or 3 centuries, abut the same amount of time the moslem empire was.

tesmith47
tesmith47

@GGaia @tesmith47 just because the phillipeanes is mostly christian now  means nothing, the enslaved african american population is 90% christian does that men anything?, the only thing that it means is that who ever conquers someone , can impose their religion on the conquered peoples, no mystery there!!!!

tesmith47
tesmith47

@GGaia @tesmith47 I did not say islam was the OLDEST OR FIRST religion there, what i said was that islam was there BEFORE  christianity. like every culture in the world animism was the FIRST  belief system

tesmith47
tesmith47

@shawn007 @tesmith47 well, tell that to the history books, everything i said is verifiable, in fact this evidence is written by the conjurers!!!

tesmith47
tesmith47

@GGaia @tesmith47 there is no argument there , that is one  historical fact, another historical fact is that Islam was in the Philippines BEFORE christianity.

#libtardedamerica
#libtardedamerica

@anonymous.kid19213108

the difference is that the jews weren't running around europe oh jihad against all non-Jews. once again, you're comparing 2 things without looking at the context surrounding them. it's clear you're still in school with your "oh, let's all get along" philosophy, attempted snarky retorts that reference hitler that fall way short of the mark, and inability to form completely thought-out arguments. go sit at the kids table and let the adults talk

tesmith47
tesmith47

@Openminded1 @CrossWinds you dont even know your own history do you even know about ww2 where you white christians murdered millions of other white christians and others?

you people are stupid, and hypocrites

Openminded1
Openminded1

@edajssecnirpbby @deleonjemm e- mail received I agree with you both Muslims are fanatical religious nut cases and truly violent ass holes. could not agree more thank you girls.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@jempag41 @TIME Muslims so peaceful, what bull crap, they hate everyone that is not muslim and some hate other muslims because they are not the same sect. Give us all a break peaceful my ass religious fanatics full of violence and hate. You bleeding heart liberals buy into there smiles and quiet demeanor, what f-king morons they hate you dummys and will kil you if given a chance and opportunity .

stravdius
stravdius

@tesmith47 @harleylovinchelley doing fine by muslim ways you said, funny how muslim already killing each other right after muhammad passed away, the muslim is killing each other UNTIL NOW, Sunni and syiah are gunning each other in daily basis, even here in Indonesia the Syiah is so often get chased away from their home, ahmadiyah was attacked on daily basis by fellow Islam, so what do you mean by doing well, it always been war with muslim either with others or with them self, in France the riot causes by moslim several years back because of their incompetence to compete for work, riot in southern thailand by muslim terorist, terorist attack in philiphines, and even islamic terrorist attack in a country where muslim is majority just like here in Indonesia, why? because they are muslim once they can't compete they went mad and start attacking anyone who isn't muslim

stravdius
stravdius

@tesmith47 @JoshCali @michaelobar and so does hindus are in Indonesian before islam, yet they never attacks any Muslim, even-though Hindus was back stabbed by islam by destroying majapahit the greatest hindu kingdom who unified whole Indonesia by signing a peace treaty then attack them when they not prepared, should Hindus be allowed to attack Islam here?

#libtardedamerica
#libtardedamerica

@tesmith47 @shawn007 

i read a book this morning about aliens and bigfoot. just because something is written in a book doesn't make it "evidence" or "verifiable." nice try though, but you're clearly biased and not willing to look at any point of view other than your own. clearly having a rational, intelligent conversation with you isn't possible, so i'm not going to try beyond this. have fun claiming your propaganda is fact. tw@t

tesmith47
tesmith47

@Openminded1 @tesmith47 @CrossWinds you poor, silly, deluded fool;  dont you understand the western, white , christians  are responsible for all those wars and for  attacking the muslim lands for their oil.

you are just a paid for mouth

Openminded1
Openminded1

@tesmith47 @Openminded1 @CrossWinds That war dumb ass is well know to me as is the Korean war and the Vietnam for sure since i was there. those were wars moron not religious fanatics like you scum bag muslims.

traffikator
traffikator

@tesmith47 @Openminded1 @jempag41 @TIME  

What do you defend Islam so much? Islam was built on deception, violence and dominance with a few of the followers not willing to go all canibal on society. They may not all go on with violence, but they tacitly support it, because all others must killed if they oppose Islam. Christianity was built on and is based on peace and love, with a few wanting to be violent in response to Islam. Islam is evil from the core. Christianity is all about love and compassion. If you do not want to be a Christian, we will try again to convince you, not kill you.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@tesmith47 @Openminded1 @jempag41 @TIME 2oo hundred years ass wipe and you were there and have the photos or any one have the photos and real docs on that history lesson moron lets see you are talking about 1813, let me know who is around to prove that dummy.