U.S. Will Cut Aid to Egypt

The move marks a chilling of relations between the two nations

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Mohamed Abd El Ghany / Reuters

Protesters throw stones during a clash between supporters and opponents of ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi, at Ramsis square, which leads to Tahrir Square, in Cairo October 6, 2013.

The U.S. will withhold hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to Egypt amid a crackdown by the country’s military-backed regime, the State Department said Wednesday.

The U.S., which provides up to $1.5 billion in aid annually to the Arab nation, will withhold delivery of certain large-scale military systems and cash assistance to the Egyptian government, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement. She did not provide a dollar amount.

The aid will be withheld “pending credible progress toward an inclusive, democratically elected civilian government through free and fair elections,” Psaki wrote in the statement. The U.S. will still provide funding for Egypt to secure its borders, fight terrorism, and ensure security in the Sinai, Psaki said.

The decision marks the White House’s most significant response yet since the Egyptian military ousted President Mohamed Morsi of the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood party in July, sparking waves of violence that have left hundreds of Morsi supporters dead. The U.S. previously canceled biennial joint military exercises with Egypt and suspended delivery of four F-16 fighter jets.

An anonymous U.S. official told the Associated Press that the latest suspensions include 10 Apache helicopters worth about $500 million.

[Associated Press]

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isitagainstthelawtoargue
isitagainstthelawtoargue

Every time the issue of reducing aid to Egypt and Israel comes up, I ask myself, what are the people who support this position really thinking?

Here are the basic tenents of my position:

1. Reducing aid to Israel and/or Egypt is devastating to our geo political interests in the Middle East.

2.  Israel and Egypt constitute our strongest allies in the Middle East because Israel and Egypt demonstrate the greatest commitment to market based economics of anyone in the region.

4.  Egypt is Israel's strongest ally in the Middle East because it is the only Arab nation that does not pledge to destroy Israel

5.  Correspondingly, every nation in the Middle East other than Israel constitutes a threat to Egypt because of Egypt's alliance with Israel.

6.  Our geo political interests require us to support Egypt and Israel  because theyare our closest allies in the Middle East and promote our economic way of life.

7.  Therefore, reducing aid to Egypt and/or Israel is devastating to our geo political interests.

I understand the main counter arguments:

Many maintain that Israel is a militant nation unfairly expanding it's borders on sovereign states.  Well, so would you if every nation around you were committed to blowing you up.  This is the Cliff Notes version of the Buckley argument:  Any act that is a threat to Israel's autonomy as a Jewish Nation State constitutes an act of Anti Semitism and is morally objectionable.  I'm not saying everyone who is not at least sympathetic to this reasoning is an Anti Semite (although some undoubtedly are), I'm saying some people just don't get it.

Likewise, others  respond that we should not support, "the current coup regime" in Egypt because it is anti democratic and oppressive.  For reasons including the following, I believe this is a facile position that fundamentally misunderstands the nature of Egypt's political history and Egypt's current political situation (If you haven't guessed, this is my version of the  Kirkpatrick argument):

Authoritarianism is different from totalitarianism.

Authoritarianism supports tradition, the military, as a basis of social control, rejects radicalism of all kinds and relies on a market based economy.  During times of political transition the non democratic branches of government take control of governing until a democratically elected leader who is capable of working with the historic institutional structures takes office.  Typically, that means someone who is capable of working with banks, long standing industries, the military, the judiciary, and majority of religions. Accordingly, the exercise of power and control by the military and/or judiciary is quite common, not a coup, and a reassertion of that nation's long standing values.  Think Ancient Sparta, Pre Weimar Republic Germany, and/or Pre World War II Japan.

On the contrary, totalitarianism involves the following:  It rejects all existing social orders; involves taking control of authority by force against historic institutions, in the name of reform; creates new institutions to benefit only the current people; does not establish any method of succession during political transition, and rejects market economies.  Think Hitler's Germany or Stalinist Russia.

I'm not fool enough to claim authoritarianism is the equivalent of democratic government.  I'm arguing it possesses more in common with democratic government than totalitarianism because like democracies it emphasizes the rule of law, the role of tradition, the power of economic autonomy.

If we closely analyze the history and current situation in Egypt, I believe it constitutes an authoritarian country, it does not represent a totalitarian country, and its interests closely align with ours.  That's more than I'm willing to say about the majority of other non democratic countries of the Middle East.

A lot of peple say that reducing sid to Egypt will make it more democratic. I don't believe that for many reasons.  Here are a couple:

1. I do not believe we must require our allies to govern themselves the same we do; and

2. I do not necessarily believe that Egypt would ever adopt our style of government. It's been around a lot longer than us and it demonstrates no signs of doing so.

For all of the foregoing reasons. I believe that reducing aid to Israel and/or Egypt is devastating to our geo political interests.

billtmcleroy
billtmcleroy

Amazing, when there was a virulent anti-American, hard-line Muslim Brotherhood man in power,one who in his very first days in office tired to seize absolute power, Obama couldn't throw money at him fast enough!  When he became more hard-line, turning a blind eye to murderous harassment of Christians and any other faith not extreme Brotherhood type Muslims Obama threw even more money at he and the Muslim Brotherhood.  Now the first Muslim American President is cutting off funding because the Egyptian Military is trying to reset the whole fiasco and make Egypt safe for everyone again, and of course get tourism dollars rolling in again.  It is really quite obvious what Obama's Middle Eastern foreign policy is: support only anti-American, anti-Christian, hard-line American-hating Muslim Brotherhood  organizations and groups, radicals who support international terrorism, murder and mayhem!

solardowork
solardowork

Why Is Obama in a rush to start World War?
Why did Obama try to give 20 of OUR F-16 Fighter Jets to Egypt?

Read Below and you will see clearly WHY.

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The World's Once LARGEST ECONOMIC ENGINE comes to an end and our leaders did almost nothing why?

50 Potential Terrorist Acts Prevented and most all could have been done without violating over
300 million American's GOD given and OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION RIGHTS TO FREEDOM.
How many aided or watched and did not a thing? 

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JUST ONE OF MANY MEXICO IS KILLING THE PRESS AND JOURNALIST

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Fort Hood the CIA and FBI Terrorism Task Force had been watching this man and

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and not stop them on the first or second act little lone wait till they cold

heart ed Murdered many be for he put him in jail. USA Leaders if you are

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In the hearts of every True American that has ever stepped foot on a United

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NOT SOME SICK IN THE HEAD LEADERS.

"The U.S. CONSTITUTION ARTICLE III SECTION 3."

(AID OR COMFORT TO THE ENEMIES HOSTILE TO US)

(ANY ASSISTANCE RENDERED TO A FOREIGN STATE HOSTILE TO US)

(CONDUCT WHICH UNDERMINES THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OR ARE GOVERNMENT OR ARE

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GIVING ARE TAX MONEY TO OTHER COUNTRIES THAT SUPPORT TERRORIST OR TERRORIST

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Taking down are Military by WEAKEN MILITARY READINESS YET KEEPS SENDING MANY

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THIS IS OBAMA'S PLAN FOR JOBS WORKING AS HE PLANED.

MASSIVE TAX ON ALL EMPLOYERS PUTTING MILLIONS OUT OF WORK.

MANY MORE EMPLOYERS CUT FULL TIMERS TO PART TIME.

THE ONCE LARGEST ECONOMIC ENGINE IN THE WORLD

MOTOR CITY USA SHUTDOWN

(CONDUCT WHICH UNDERMINES THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OR ARE GOVERNMENT OR ARE NATIONAL SECURITY)

What Part of this did

all Americans let anyone cut out of our hearts or are (U.S. CONSTITUTION) "The U.S. CONSTITUTION ARTICLE III SECTION 3."

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Responsible

for the fall of the second most powerful man in the United States of America

Dan Rostenkowski, Democrat-Illinois

Democrat

controlled and run cities are some of the highest crime places in this

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(" When Injustice Becomes Law Rebellion Becomes Duty " THOMAS JEFFERSON ).

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("In GOD We Trust")
The United States of America’s Motto July 30, 1956.
King David’s Motto 3,000 years ago.

Soon all the World will Pray to Our Lord GOD and Savior Jesus Christ.

"United We Will Always Stand in Our Lord GOD and Savior Jesus Christ We Trust"
True Americans True Patriots GOD Bless

May are Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

Guide and Watch over us all.

The Lord's Little Helper

Paul Felix Schott