Hamid Karzai and U.S. at Odds Over Security Deal

U.S. National Security Advisor Susan Rice tells Karzai to sign agreement or American troops start packing

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Afghan President Hamid Karzai attends the last day of the Loya Jirga in Kabul, on Nov. 24, 2013.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai and U.S. National Security Advisor Susan Rice traded frank messages on Monday over the bilateral security agreement that would allow American troops to remain in Afghanistan for as long as the next decade.

In her first trip abroad in her new post, Rice delivered the message that Karzai must sign the recently-agreed bilateral security agreement promptly or the U.S. would prepare to pull out its troops by the end of next year. “Without a prompt signature, the U.S. would have no choice but to initiate planning for a post-2014 future in which there would be no U.S. or NATO troop presence in Afghanistan,” Rice told the Afghan president.

But Karzai still balked at finalizing the deal that he negotiated with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry earlier this month, despite a Loya Jirga — a grand council of elders — that he called urging him to sign by Dec. 31. On Monday, Karzai added new demands and threatened to defer to whoever succeeds him as president after elections in April.

If Karzai does not sign the bilateral security agreement, nearly all U.S. troops will leave the country by the end of 2014. The deal calls for U.S. troops to remain in Afghanistan in a support role “until the end of 2024 and beyond” unless terminated by mutual agreement or with two years’ notice from either side.

[AP]

28 comments
quikev08
quikev08

America needs that agreement to get out of Afghanistan in one piece. Or another 'surge' miight be in order. Obama won't be 'ordering' the 'retreat'.

Piacevole
Piacevole

Let Karzai refuse to sign by the end of the year.  Let our troops come home, the sooner, the better, and let Afghanistan make its own way in the world, if ever it finds out that there is a world out here.

So far as I can see, Afghanistan has no redeeming social value.


zelskid1
zelskid1

Lets get out now . Where is a petition?

BSF1
BSF1

Good! gives us a way out of this quagmire that has trapped and killed too many American troops. We didn't belong there in the first place, and now we can "gracefully"(?) get out of it.

RobbiePaul
RobbiePaul

Afganistan is the world leading producer of opium. Since the Taliban left, it has returned to the number one drug nation. In order to build a long range pain...  one that would mean scale back to leaving...the usa and afganistan are going to need shared objectives.

goerizal
goerizal

the rubicon has been crossed. somebody must be counting and figuring out how much his bitcoin hoard will last.

onetruepipe
onetruepipe

Halt all aid and get our troops out of that cesspit.  Bring our families home! 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Karzai the gift from GWB that keeps giving. Since he already virtually gave the Taliban back the country through his incompetence and corruption, we should just leave him to deal with them directly. Pull all the US troops out, let the Taliban hang him in the town square and then remind the new Taliban government that we will be back in a heartbeat if they host terrorist groups again.



Tiger-Pi
Tiger-Pi

The US should now gracefully leave Afghanistan. Leave the matter of running that country after the US troops depart, to their own leaders.    The  NATO/US soldiers and civilians who  had served in Afghanistan,  and those unfortunates  who died there, did not really achieve anything worthwhile.  A great waste of  US /NATO money, material, manpower. 

sirprzemyslaw
sirprzemyslaw

Then get out. Stop wasting the lives of America's young men and women who work hard to defend their country to fight a war based on politicians' whims.

jwarrencollins
jwarrencollins

Afghanistan is a long lost cause. It simply knows no other way than the fool's path. Sanity suggest we cut this culture loose, cut our fiscal losses and let them drift for another thousand years. This one is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, so the west might as well take the cheapest road out.

cannibalofthetrees
cannibalofthetrees

DON'T SIGN IT!

It's nothing but a trap so that our soldiers can continue to commit war crimes against your people. Serve your country and do not sign that agreement. Then, begin charging these soldiers for they crimes they do commit. Without an agreement with us, you'll be able to legally hold these criminals accountable for their deeds.

Zelson
Zelson

The reasons we intervened into Afghanistan after 9/11 was to dismantle the al Qaeda terrorist organization and to remove from power the Taliban government, which at the time controlled 90% of Afghanistan and hosted the al-Qaeda leadership. Now our brilliant NSA chief Susan Rice is threatening Karzai with withdrawal of all U.S and NATO troops. The Taliban will just take over the country and all those lives and treasure will be wasted for naught. Susan Rice is an incompetent and has failed at every government job to which she has been appointed. She can't negotiate herself out of a paper bag.

spenser4hyre
spenser4hyre

With the problems we have at home, we should never have been there to begin with! Thinking that this was going to decrease world-wide terrorism was absurd! Bring our boys and girls home!

zelskid1
zelskid1

Karzai's brother running for President so they can continue to steal.

ozette11
ozette11

Well Karzai is either a very stupid man with a Death Wish or very stupidly brave. As soon as the last US soldier is out of Afganistan he will will be strung up by the ' Taliban ' like Mussolini, but without the head. His power rides on the back of the USA. without it he is dead. If he does not sign I am sure he will be on the last US plane out of there-if we let him on board that is.


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NamecNassianer
NamecNassianer

No need to negotiate.  No need to leave a residual force. Just get out of Afghanistan.

AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

Karzai is his own worst enemy....and his own nation's too.  Without the US present Afghanistan will fall like the house of cards it is. 

With that said, and in my own humble opinion, if the security infrastructure is so weak and if the political will so corrupt I have to ask why should we stay one more day? 

Viet Nam should have taught us that exact lesson.

ViableOp
ViableOp

American taxpayers should be questioning the current Administration on its poor oversight of funds given to organizations for reconstruction in Afghanistan.  As shown here, only a fraction of the hundreds of millions of dollars granted to foreign organizations by the U.S. State Department were audited to ensure that the funds were being spent where they were supposed to be spent:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2013/10/where-your-money-went-funding.html

zelskid1
zelskid1

@Zelson Funny, my user name is usually zelskid. Afghanistan was a dumb escalation. Time to cut losses.