China Says It Let U.S. Bomber Planes Fly Through Disputed Airspace

Tensions in disputed airspace with Japan

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The Chinese government said on Wednesday that it detected and monitored flights by two unarmed American B-52 bombers over a disputed part of the East China Sea on Tuesday, but that it took no action.

The two American B-52 bombers flew through territory that was part of China’s newly-declared maritime air defense zone, where it has demanded planes register their flight plans and communications frequencies with Beijing even though Japan claims sovereignty over the area. The American aircraft did not identify themselves, the Associated Press reports. The Chinese Defense Ministry released a statement on Wednesday saying it had detected and monitored the flights for more than two hours. “China has the capability to exercise effective control over the relevant airspace,” the statement said.

During a briefing in Beijing, China’s Foreign Ministry said that its muted reaction was in accordance with rules announced by the Defense Ministry, and that its response to foreign aircraft in the zone in the future would depend on how large the threat is, the New York Times reports.

The U.S. military said that the flights were a training mission and not a response to China’s latest assertion of authority over the zone.

[AP]

105 comments
vtam1992
vtam1992

Wasn't it Mao who first coined the term 'paper tiger'?   

lovebaby
lovebaby

 Iam chinese , living for 30 years in china .  many chinese and me don't like corruption in china , but compare with life , I would choose peace choose corruption  , I hope common American know some thingking from our angle .  For so many years , USA's army plane with weapon close to our coutry's shore line go arround . for our angle , like bomb always want to bomb local people .   Always take action like Aggressor , pls note , as one common chinese people don't afraid to war , or why happen korea war severalty years ago ? No one afraid blood life , if no choice .  as leader on the world , USA must be became responsible , justice , kinds leader , but not bomb other local people after your USD or benefits , compare to politics , life is more cherish much , who authorite USA to bombing so many small country's peace , to support demostcal war in so many place . who give you right ? you can representive to other people's GOD ?  or don't care about USA people's life .   If you complain china make money from OEM producing for market , you can cancel order. It always moving base on price , this is why before china not OEM producing area , and Now it is .  the other side , who make major profits , everyone can know it is brand , but not poor OEM supplier .  and many USA company do big business in china , many big brand in china be bought by USA company , USA company already make big profits from chinese markets ,too .   At last , I think china is more reliable country in fact , people working very hard ,  thought today many problem , but pls note this country not 1 population , it is many talent's country with long history , any progress or problem's solve need take much time , Now already progress very fast .  For marketing economics just developement for 30-40 years , and western country already develop more than 100 years's history .   the other side , now I think why USA army's agressive action for so many years because they think american holding so many steel ship and cleanus bomb , but I don't think other country is just have several hundreds's nuclears bomb , for china , before don't afraid war without nuclears bomb , Now would afraid ? USA so rich still don't afraid war , and china still not rich would afraid ? I don't think so . 

ironcity#1
ironcity#1

At issue here as far as the US is concerned is that Chinese declaration of ADIF is impeding the freedom of navigation. The area covered is in international space and any user of the sea lanes or airlanes does not owe China an explanation why they are transiting in international air space. 

It is about time that the US drew the line and send the old rickety b52 to remind China  that the declaration of ADIFin international air space is not China's privelege and right.

Chinese territorial air space is only out to 12 miles.

quatra
quatra

This kind of thing got Powell in his U2 down back in 1960, the Pueblo captured in January 1968, being kicked out of Vietnam in 1975, and the Iran hostage screw-up in July 1980. Not to speak about their invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. All US actions proving US incompetence and decline at enormous cost to their tax payers, in geographical regions where they have no business.

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SenegalRepublic
SenegalRepublic

China are named by someone as "Aggressors". This is very funny.

Let me ask you a question. How many civilians were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, which were called "Giving them liberty, helping them to make better life." Please give me the answer. Yeah! they are liberated now , no pain, no sorrow.. Because they are dead!!!!

If you are giving hands all over the world, why was the ambassador killed in Libya? 

SenegalRepublic
SenegalRepublic

Americans say Japan is their important Allies.  Allies.......How funny! What a beautiful tag!!

Actually , Japan is just a ATM , Watch Dog in Asia or something to US. US get money from Japan by playing some economical tricks . Actually , from all over the world. 

Japanese are very clear about that, but they are pleased to exchange this amount of money for the protection.

Japanese can never forget about  the 2 toys  that US air force have dropped down.

The things among countries are very simple, just benefit! nothing else

Stop pretending to be God ! We are very tied of that.

thetrue112
thetrue112

I am Chinese. I know who is in breach of the peace. Everyone says China's rise undermined the peace. But China's development today, I do not see that the fact that China has a breach of the peace, interfering in other countries' internal affairs. On the contrary. America always interfering in other countries' internal affairs. Also always looking for an excuse to cover up. People who have never been in China, do not be international public opinion affect their judgment. Who are peace-loving, and I believe the facts before us, the U.S. gross interference in the internal affairs of the United States is the destroyer of peace in the world.

SamEstranghero
SamEstranghero

CHINA HAS NO BALLS TO SHOOT US PLANES....SO EMBARASSING, THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND WAITING FOR THEIR ACTION IF THEY WILL REALLY WALK THE TALK....COWARDS...


ChinaLee
ChinaLee

The American B-52s were unarmed to ensure that China would not shoot them down. If the B-52s were armed, China could legitimately claim that they shot down a potentially thermonuclear-armed bomber threatening their coastal cities.

Obviously, China would not shoot down an unarmed bomber.

Earlier, another commenter suggested escorting the B-52s with F-22 stealth fighters. F-22s are only stealthy in X-band radar. L-band radar can see a F-22 within 50 feet of its actual position. 

Thus, the Chinese would know if F-22s were present and they might have the ability to shoot down F-22s as well. Firstly, you guide a surface-to-air missile into the vicinity of the F-22. The missile's onboard X-band radar (and/or infrared sensor) can see the F-22 within a 10-mile range.

PulSamsaraXi
PulSamsaraXi

"Monitored"


Much like a puppy 'monitors' it's poo when getting it's nose rubbed in it.

mirimetoru
mirimetoru

To the distinguished hweijaia33 in reply to your sarcastic comment my own take was of a technical and strategic nature in reference to the fact of this article  which was the lonely B-52's  flight over a disputed part of the China Sea. It has nothing to do with the cost of each F-22 Raptor aircraft and who paid for them. 

It was also a salute to all of the air crews out there that are protecting all of us during this Holidays and will not have the day off.

I am sure all of us tax payers did share a part of the fabrication costs of those warplanes. The only difference is that we have the F-22 Raptors and hopefully will use them if necessary and the Chinese don't.

And you are right I do have a very good imagination that takes me to the time when we will no longer be criticizing each other for commenting about a topic like this and mixing politics, the economy and partisan bovine scatology.

drewgsands
drewgsands

It is Japanese Airspace and will remain that way. On the flip side if one thing and I do mean thing that is all China is capable of. If they sent anything up satellites would detect the POS and missiles or the new laser system would shoot it down in there face. This story is boring. Although good for the soap opera lover or GOP war lover. 

AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

I'm quite sure the Chinese government fully understands the military, strategic and political realities here.

mirimetoru
mirimetoru

After watching Strategic Air Command on Turner Movie Classics with James Stewart & June Allison the other nights it came to mind that how can anybody think that the USAF would send 2 "unarmed B-52" in to a potential conflict zone without topside escort? This was a great opportunity to test new hardware how about 6 F-22 Raptors flying in their "totally stealthy fashion" covering our great B-52 and Beijing acknowledging only 2 planes when in reality they were 8 planes or more altogether.......we are still very good at training missions. 

Happy Thanksgiving and thank you to all those USAF crews out there over the wild blue yonder....

Bullsgt
Bullsgt

Sounds like two school yard bullies. "Don't cross this line"! " Oh! Yea! what are you going to do about it?"

We pay these politicians? I want a refund!

HonokaaChuck
HonokaaChuck

@lovebaby I have a very good friend that lives in China.  She is afraid to say much on the internet at all, and especially anything about politics or the government of China, so I'm not surprised that you would come on a website like this, and say such things...  Doesn't surprise me at all, because anyone in China saying anything different on the internet is looking for trouble.  It's just sad that you don't really have any persuasive impact especially with the US audience.  No we are not buying your criticisms of our country, or believing that China is better, or can do no wrong...  No...  When I go to comment on Chinese websites, they don't post my comments! LOL  People in China don't have the benefit of hearing what we who live in the US think.  That begs the question if people there even have a clue as to what is really going on...  Oh well, it is what it is, but regardless of what you say, I wouldn't trade places with anyone in China for all the money in China!  I'll be happy if you are there since you love it so much, and I'll suffer and live in the USA!!!

ironcity#1
ironcity#1

@quatra spying is not illegal as long as it is conducted outside of your territory. That means 12 miles out to sea or airspace. At the height of cold war soviet trawlers have been seen loitering along eastern US seaboard listening in on radio traffic. The US coast guard even welcome them an at times when the russians needed help they were rescued by US coast guard.

Yes the US have been in places it should not be including Antarctica. And the world can thank the US Navy for guaranteeing the freedom of sea lanes which laid the foundation of global commerce. In which every nation benefited including China. 


SenegalRepublic
SenegalRepublic

@quatra  Yeah! Everybody knows the tricks that US is playing with the world. We are just watching how long the US can keep this show.

ironcity#1
ironcity#1

@SenegalRepublic Let me pose this question. If you were an afghan would you rather have you and your loved ones live under the Taliban rule or under the present Afghan regime where girls can attend school and still choose to practiced their religion as they see fit. 

US ambassador to Libya was murdered. Trust me US is sifting the electronic footprint and hunt the killers down whether it will take 1 month or 10 years.

JericoCruz
JericoCruz

@SenegalRepublic those civilians you are talking about, you're talking about like the US killed them all and you making it sound like they are all innocent, you're just another Chinese troll, if you think China is gonna overtake the US soon you're dreaming, maybe it will someday but for sure it won't be in your lifetime so sucks to be you! 

vn
vn

@thetrue112 you kill your own kind and you call that peace 

ironcity#1
ironcity#1

@thetrue112 settting up an ADIf in international air space and requiring everyone to identify themselves without intending to cross into Chinese territory is dictatorial. Chinese fisherman and chinese coast guard are some of the most aggressive player in the high seas. Talk about peace loving. EEven far off Australia had to stand with the japan and the US regarding the issue with ADIF declared by CHINA. Peace Loving My foot, All of the neighbors sharing sea lanes with the exception of North Korea has a territorial issue with China. 

Oberserver
Oberserver

@SamEstranghero The 2 B-52 were not inside of China's "air-territory".They were flying through the Air defend zone.So why would China shoot them down, read and think before you post. Check it out if you don't know what is AirDefendZone.

SenegalRepublic
SenegalRepublic

@SamEstranghero IF CHINA'S DON'T HAVE THE BULLETS TO SHOOT IT, US AIR FORCE PROBABLY HAVE FLY INTO CHINA'S TERRITORIAL AIR SPACE MANY TIMES.


JericoCruz
JericoCruz

@ChinaLee lol! China doesn't even know if it's armed or not ha! And the China is only saying that they know of the flight just because they saw it on the news ha!

ironcity#1
ironcity#1

@ChinaLee assumng that the F22 is not a moving object and it does not shoot back then you can shoot it down. Other than that keep on dreaming.

Clinton
Clinton

No any country can shoot down a foreign military plane in its adiz. ADIZ IS NOT AIR SPACE. If a chines fight er jet enter s US ADIZ, US can only monitor it, no shoot down.

SamEstranghero
SamEstranghero

@ChinaLee 

CHINA HAS NO BALLS TO SHOOT US PLANES....SO EMBARASSING, THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND WAITING FOR THEIR ACTION IF THEY WILL REALLY WALK THE TALK....COWARDS...

liyih
liyih

@PulSamsaraXi Why didn't those planes fly directly into Chinese air territory? 

SenegalRepublic
SenegalRepublic

@drewgsands  You mean, shoot the China's missiles or satellites down? This sounds like a joke told by a child. You have the Japanese courage wrong estimated.  China is not the one decades ago. 


InfinitySpace
InfinitySpace

@drewgsands 


Chinese are superior to Americans genetically. Over time. I am sure Chinese will get up puppet governments in latin Ameria/

hweijia33
hweijia33

@mirimetoru ..........................Bravo!!! Genius!!! Fabulous Imagination!!! Come on, man, each F-22 cost 200 million dollars which ur government borrow from China years ago.

Clinton
Clinton

And the line is by the door of china, far away from the US.

If China sends its fight er jets to US Air Defense Id zone, then China is the bully.

liyih
liyih

@HonokaaChuck @lovebaby I hear I what you think. I have access to both sides of the story. Ask millions of oversea Chinese, is America justice? Does America have the right to surround China with military bases? 


Diaoyu island is by law Chinese territory. Japan by surrendering agreed on everything in both "Cairo Declaration" and Potsdam Declaration". Tell me is there anything wrong about it? Why is America assisting japs do evil things. They worship war criminals who killed tens of thousand Americans. 

lovebaby
lovebaby

@JericoCruz @SenegalRepublic  funy , who care about overtake , at least we are fully don't care about this kinds thing .  You want to became boss of world is ok , but don't use your democracy's flag to bombing other counctry !  You are not right to kill other people .  some is innocent , yes , you are right , in fact you are same !   every country have some problem , like USA everyday have someone be killed by gun ,too . In fact you not boss of gas , resources . you just one common people , you cherish yourself's life , pls note  other country's people's life is cherished by others ,too . 

liyih
liyih

@ironcity#1 @thetrue112 American was the first to have such defense zone. You handed that "zone" to japan in 1960s. The closest point from that defense zone to Chinese coastline is 130km.  And it's been there for 44 years. You think China is aggressive just by having a defense zone?  Seriously, why are american so brainwashed?  your ignorance is causing lives around the globe. You think you are justice?  

ironcity#1
ironcity#1

@InfinitySpace @drewgsands By what measure? If you measure genetic superiority by how many nobel laureate are Chinese you are dead last my friend. If you measure innovation Chinese are widely known as copy cat and intellectual property thieves. So please explain your position.

American or being American is not a singular race but more like a polyglot of races. They may not be ]necessarily mixed. In fact in genetics hybrids generally display better characteristics. And Hybrid means it is being mixed. So go back and study your science books before you post anything.

HonokaaChuck
HonokaaChuck

@hweijia33 @mirimetoru China buying US treasury bills is not exactly what it appears...  China keeps saying US borrowed money, so now we own US....  Nooooo...  China put up collateral in hard currency, US let them buy treasury bills...  Now US has collateral for all the investment the US has made in China.  China decides to war with US, US keeps collateral for all it's investment losses in China.  Ooops!  Then China broke, needs investment, but US reinvests in itself.  US not so stupid after all!   LOL 

ironcity#1
ironcity#1

@hweijia33 @mirimetoru If the US owes you so much money and are entitled to what the US makes . why dont you march up to pentagon and demand that they shipped the F22 to China as payment for the money that the US owed you.

SenegalRepublic
SenegalRepublic

@hweijia33 @mirimetoru Yeah! the current situation is China doesn't have the second choice. US is powerful, so China has to exchange something for the development.  

But things keep changing, you can never tell what will happen next. China will probably give you a huge surprise someday.

ironcity#1
ironcity#1

@Clinton China currently does not have the capacity to send combat air patrol across the pacific on a regular basis. Whether whose doorstep is being considered is moot point.

It should not be so hard for the US to escort such visitors ass they have been doing that during the cold war.

Bullsgt
Bullsgt

@Clinton I usually do not respond to individuals.  But, are you learning impaired?? Be quiet and let the adults talk....

lovebaby
lovebaby

@liyih @HonokaaChuck @lovebaby  American 's role is my dog japan sell island to became japanese, support small country to take chinese iland ,  china need keep quiet , accept their action , also china must be endure the weapon plane fly to your country everyday . this is justice !   they just want find excuse to attack RMB, every day do advertise to clean American people's brain for more soldier to serve their bank boss  , USA's justice , they take killing in everywhere , and told western people , this is justice ! suck your justice !  

lovebaby
lovebaby

One does not recognize the Nanjing Massacre, etc. series of biochemical experiments bad behavior countries, but also admitted that they were U.S. bombing also legal? we are both asia people, even culture, something, stupid american be cheated by japanese again, one day, the Japanese will be revenge, hatred of the atomic bomb, sucker Americans! That the fight against the RMB is your most wanted, was finally burst chrysanthemum must be Americans, to provoke war will not end well!

liyih
liyih

@JericoCruz @SenegalRepublic @SamEstranghero Do you know how many US jets China has shot down after 1949?  141 shot down. 238 damaged. They flew into Chinese territory. They got shot down. That defense zone is not territory. It's a identification zone which was created by the US in the first place.