Pope Francis: I’m Not a Marxist

The Pontiff discusses his criticism of capitalism, plans for reform and world suffering

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Pope Francis defended his recent criticism of capitalism, calling U.S. conservatives’ claims that he’s teaching Marxism incorrect.

The Holy See opened up about his denunciation of capitalism as well as his plans for reform in an interview with Italian daily La Stampa printed Sunday. Francis discounted claims by American radio host Rush Limbaugh, who called the Pope’s church reforms “pure Marxism” after the first apostolic exhortation in November.

“The Marxist ideology is wrong. But I have met many Marxists in my life who are good people, so I don’t feel offended,” Francis said.

The Argentinian Pontiff expanded on his criticism, saying, “The promise was that when the glass was full, it would overflow, benefiting the poor. But what happens instead, is that when the glass is full, it magically gets bigger nothing ever comes out for the poor. This was the only reference to a specific theory. I was not, I repeat, speaking from a technical point of view but according to the church’s social doctrine. This does not mean being a Marxist.”

Francis, who was recently selected as TIME’s Person of the Year, also dismissed speculation that he would announce a female Cardinal.

“Women in the church must be valued, not ‘clericalised,'” he said. “Those thinking about women cardinals are suffering a bit from clericalism.”

Francis turns 77 on Tuesday, just before marking his first Christmas as Pope. He said he also plans to commence the 50th anniversary of Paul VI’s first papal visit to the Holy Land by returning to meet his “brother” Bartholomew, the Patriarch of Constantinople, as his predecessor did in 1964.

The Pontiff also made mention of meeting with the Council of Cardinals, his eight advisers, to discuss reform proposals at their next meeting with him in February. Among the issues will be marriage and divorcees’ exclusion from communion.

“The exclusion of divorced people who contract a second marriage from communion is not a sanction. It is important to remember this.” The Pope added that marriage as a whole would be discussed in the coming months and that many things would be examined in more detail and clarified.

[La Stampa]

25 comments
RobertJ.Spreitzer
RobertJ.Spreitzer

Rush Limbaugh however is a has-been (make that never-been) windbag who spouts off nonsense to get any attention he can.

argeire
argeire

Pope Francis is against Marxism and is also against extreme capitalism.  He is an intelligent man, he knows extremes are harmful, and like in electricity, the most simple outcome is neutralization through the fusion of the positive and negative charges.  A society, like a human body has a left hemisphere and a right hemisphere, and If a stroke occurs in a human body, and blood flow can't reach the region that controls a particular body function, that part of the body won't work as it should, so we need to have an equilibrium between right and left. Equilibrium means to avoid extremes.

Pope Francis is following the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church, which was created much earlier than marxism, and does not have anything to do either with marxism or extreme capitalism. 

DeanJackson
DeanJackson

The caption reads, " Pope Francis: I’m Not A Marxist"


In fact, the Vatican was co-opted by Moscow and allies in 1958 with the "election" of Pope John XXIII. When the inexplicable "resignation" of Pope Benedict occurred last February, many were shocked, realizing I had indeed hit on the truth. Then several months after his "resignation, Pope Emeritus Benedict admitted the real reason he "resigned"--God told him too! It wasn't God, but Moscow, because the stench of Benedict's pedophilia was too strong, Moscow now needed a kinder, gentler man in the Vatican--Pope Francis (Moscow's intention isn't to destroy the Catholic Church, merely to weaken and control it). 


How did I pinpoint the date of the Moscow usurpation of the Vatican, you ask? Simple, because in 1960 the Vatican refused to releases the so-called Third Secret of Fatima, 1960 being the year the "secret" was to be released by. Imaging that? The Vatican refusing an order from God! You don't have to be a Christian (or a believer in God) to know that Believers would never disobey the order of God!


Also, it was in the early 1960s that the Vatican inexplicably changed its policy towards priests caught molesting Catholic children. The old policy was to remove the offending priest from the unsupervised company of children, a move consistent with Christian values, since (1) the Vatican knew what would happen to such priests if sent to prison; and (2) it stopped in its tracks any further abuse of Catholic children by the offending priest. But in the early 1960s the Vatican's policy inexplicably changed to passing the offending priest to unsuspecting parishes, where the molestation of Catholic children could continue, hugely increasing the number of Catholic children abused. The policy shift also had the side effect of encouraging pedophiles to join the seminaries in order to get some of the action their pedophile priest-friends told them about.


You see, if Believers were in control of the Vatican, naturally such a policy shift would never have taken place, since Believers would know that God would have a special punishment for them in the next life. Never thought about that, huh?


We also have the incident where in 1998 Pope John Paul II tried to palm off on the Swiss Guard a KGB agent for the position of Commander. Several hours after Alois Estermann is promoted to commander of the Swiss Guard by Pope John Paul II, Estermann and his wife (along with another Swiss Guard) are found dead in their Vatican apartment. Days later the European press reports that Estermann had been a KGB agent since 1979.


For those of you wondering how could the Moscow network in the Vatican still be operational, since the USSR "collapsed" in 1991, take a look at these…


Google: 'Krasnaya Zvezda'


“Krasnaya Zvezda” is Russian (no kidding!) for "Red Star", the official newspaper of Soviet and later Russian Ministry of Defense. The paper's official designation is, "Central Organ of the Russian Ministry of Defense." Note the four Soviet emblems next to the still existing Soviet era masthead, one of which pictures Lenin's head! Those Soviet emblems and Lenin's head can't still be next to the masthead of the Russian Ministry of Defense's newspaper due to their association with the Soviet Union and its ideals of world revolution; the nations of the world constituting the Soviet Union!


In addition, the KGB agent Quislings that controlled the Russian Orthodox Church before the “collapse” of the USSR are to this day still in control. They were never identified and thrown out of that institution after the “collapse” of the USSR. The same is true for all other religious institutions in the other 14 republics of the USSR, including East Bloc nations, proving not only co-option of those religious institutions, but that the "collapses" of the East Bloc and USSR were disinformation operations:


Google: ‘Eleven out of 15 members of Bulgarian Orthodox Church's Holy Synod worked for communist State Security’




BruceStrong
BruceStrong

Why doesn't the Pope cast off the church's wealth and give it back to the poor. You lead by example Pope, start giving away your gold, works of art, property and then we'll talk!

JoseGonzales
JoseGonzales

The Pope is actually Satan running the same war on marijuana that caused the crucifixion of Jesus Christ for distribution of a controlled substance called holy oil, the ancient form of marijuana oil.


Do a search on "Smoke of Satan" and see how the corrupt Vatican reversed the rolls between God and Satan.


matteosapient
matteosapient

For 10k years we've had various forms of domination/subordination = slavery, serfdom, capitalism. The pope, among many others, is  pointing out what is glaringly known by all :  mind-blowing economic inequality.  Democracy means, the people rule - look it up. Only  a  fraction (1%)  of the people rule in this country, through their dominating ownership & control of the wealth.  When the people - as in We The People - decide to establish economic equality, that's when democracy will begin. 

NickHart
NickHart

No, not a Marxist. Much, much worse. A false prophet. Notice I didn't say THE false prophet. Just one in a long line.


therealdude
therealdude

I surprised he even acknowledged the people who hurl that accusation at him. Most likely the reason the people who hurled that accusation at him did it because he touched the nerve of their own greed and selfishness and it made them uncomfortable or angry.

lighthouse333
lighthouse333

"You are not Marxist".  You are heresies, a traitor of the true teachings of Jesus Christ. Why are you persecute the Traditional teachings of the church for 2000 years? Why you promote the false teaching of Gay-Zionist-Jews/Pedophiles Vatican II? Your counterfeit church are full of filthy that Jesus condemned? Why you protect the evils? Why you rejected and killed the true messenger from Fatima apparition? Why you guys killed sister Lucia and place an impostor KGB nun pretender as sister Lucia? You are all hypocrites UNLESS YOU REPENT QUICKLY AND CONSECRATE RUSSIA TO HER IMMACULATE HEART SO THE WORLD MAY HAVE A CHANCE OF PEACE. HEAVEN SPOKE LOUD AND CLEAR FOR ALMOST 100 YEARS NOW AND YOU STIFF-NECK JEWS still don't want to convert but destroy the Catholic Church from within. Your fathers killed JESUS CHRIST AND YOU ARE CONTINUE TO KILL HIS CHURCH. YOU JEWS ARE THE CURSED OF MANKIND. ALL GOOD JEWS HAD BEEN CONVERTED LONG AGO. Only bad Jews are still doing the will of Satan your Father. REPENT AND CONVERT TO THE TRUE GOD THAT YOUR EVIL FATHERS HAD KILLED BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR ALL OF JEWS. 

hill9845
hill9845

Rush Limbaugh is only concerned about selling his coffee mugs and other junk.  The people who listen to him will believe anything but the truth.  He knows that and that's why he'll say whatever he thinks will dumb-down his listeners even more.

JerryHowe
JerryHowe

Marxism is DEAD in the water. Let us get over it for once and for all. It is not coming back in your lifetime, your children's lifetime, or your children's children lifetime.

End of story.


JoseGonzales
JoseGonzales

@RobertJ.Spreitzer And the Pope supports doctrine that glorifies Satan with the Jesuit war on holy oil, the ancient form of marijuana oil.

Gemma55
Gemma55

@DeanJackson Get behind me Satan.  You are delusional and full of pure evil.  I will pray for you.

argeire
argeire

@DeanJackson:  You are wrong !  The Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church is much, much older than communism. 

AgustinusBiotamaloLumbantoruan
AgustinusBiotamaloLumbantoruan

@BruceStrong  How classic and dumb reasoning you have there sir.... The Church has lots of liability especially in education, hospital, soup kitchen, arts, library, maintenance, security etc!

You sound much like JUDAS who asked the Lord why don't we just sell the oil and give it to the poor......


THe House of the Lord must be beautiful... It is a sign of love of Men to God through men's innate and given creativity, strength and intelligent to God. How dare you selling those work of arts of the people of God whom they gave to the synagogue or church? The church is also the eye witnesses of God, so they have to keep those evident not for themselves and God but for the next generation to enjoy!

JohnDeSalvio
JohnDeSalvio

@JoseGonzales You can do "research" on anything you want. That doesn't mean your research is valid or truthful or objective.

Amskeptic
Amskeptic

@lighthouse333  Crazy much? Can you imagine God or Jesus having to read your snivelling diatribe? 

JoseGonzales
JoseGonzales

@JohnDeSalvio@JoseGonzales And you can follow the corrupt Vatican and its chosen leader into eternal damnation.  The Truth has been revealed to you, you can no longer claim innocence.

JerryHowe
JerryHowe

@JoseGonzales @JerryHowe 


Your comment is very telling of the fact that you have never visited or lived in a Marxist socialist state. I have visited several in the past. Only an ignorant fool would make a connection between Barack Obama and  Marxist socialism.